Angel: I appreciate you guys looking out for Connor all summer. It's just—he's confused. He needs time. That's all. Fred: Right. Time, and some corporal punishment with a large heavy mallet. Not that I'm bitter.

'Just Rewards (2)'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Susan W. - Aug 03, 2005 10:39:22 am PDT #3408 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

OK, got it. I misunderstood from seeing it from the midst of the kerfuffle, where everyone is trying to figure out exactly what really happened (which AFAICT was bad enough), and watching the post-mortem spiral out of control even as I participate in it.


Fay - Aug 03, 2005 10:54:10 am PDT #3409 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Ah, well, if we refer to the actual kerfuffle - my take on that is very much mediated by the various lenses through which I've glimpsed it. I know Betsy was there, and I'd got the impression you were there too, although I may have misunderstood that? Still, it sounds like whoever was responsible demonstrated a pretty astounding lack of empathy and imagination, to be able to juxtapose images of human suffering against a banal pop soundtrack in order to convey a message (presumably?)of "hey, bad stuff happens, but let's ignore it and read romantic novels!" I mean, setting footage of Tiananmen Square to 'Don't Worry, Be Happy' is a gesture of such startlingly black humour that it takes my breath away.


deborah grabien - Aug 03, 2005 10:58:01 am PDT #3410 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I mean, setting footage of Tiananmen Square to 'Don't Worry, Be Happy' is a gesture of such startlingly black humour that it takes my breath away.

I've been getting the impression that black humour wasn't the intent, unfortunately....


Susan W. - Aug 03, 2005 11:07:28 am PDT #3411 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I know Betsy was there, and I'd got the impression you were there too, although I may have misunderstood that?

No, I wasn't--finances/Annabel made it impossible this year. I didn't hear about any of this until yesterday.


deborah grabien - Aug 03, 2005 11:52:22 am PDT #3412 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

So, for those who have been reading the new series:

Just heard back from Jenn. She starts out with:

Read the book. Loved it. Beautiful writing. Compelling insight.

and goes on. But she also feels - I tend to agree, basically - that it might be tricky to market as a straight mystery, since it's really more about them than about the crime. That, of course, is a highly simplified version of her take - she feels the pacing is too measured for a straight mystery, that the flashbacks - which she adores and which she thinks makes the book as strong as it is - dilute the pacing that's a present requirement for the current straight mystery genre. What did I see it as?

My first reaction to that is, chick lit. It's a man telling the story, but it's the womens' story, they're at the heart of it.

So, readers of the Ws-I-P: opinions?


SailAweigh - Aug 03, 2005 1:45:20 pm PDT #3413 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

My own feeling is that the outgoing president is a dopey little Anne Coulter wannabe who ought to be dropped down a laundry chute into an escape-proof room containing thirty horny sailors.

I'm sorry, Deb, but even the average horny sailor (me included) is much too discriminating to accept such burnt offerings.

As to your current series? Chick lit, all the way. Romance and angst and, by the way, a little mystery for good measure.


deborah grabien - Aug 03, 2005 1:49:15 pm PDT #3414 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I'm sorry, Deb, but even the average horny sailor (me included) is much too discriminating to accept such burnt offerings.

BWAH! I was thinking more along the line of Geoffrey Rush's character in PotC, bad teeth and all, but she's probably got a sooper-seekrit "fucked by pirates" fantasy in place, and why gratify her?


SailAweigh - Aug 03, 2005 2:06:22 pm PDT #3415 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

why gratify her?

Well, except I don't think it would. She seems very much the type to lie back, close her eyes and think of England/the Queen/GWB.


deborah grabien - Aug 03, 2005 2:25:45 pm PDT #3416 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Well, except I don't think it would. She seems very much the type to lie back, close her eyes and think of England/the Queen/GWB

"Think unsexy thoughts. Think unsexy thoughts. Think unsexy thoughts."


Anne W. - Aug 04, 2005 3:43:49 am PDT #3417 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

RWA kerfuffle? I have heard whispers of such a thing, but know not what it is about.