I just said that you're pretty. Even when you're covered in...engine grease, you're... No, especially, especially when you're covered in engine grease.

Simon ,'Jaynestown'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Susan W. - Aug 03, 2005 11:07:28 am PDT #3411 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I know Betsy was there, and I'd got the impression you were there too, although I may have misunderstood that?

No, I wasn't--finances/Annabel made it impossible this year. I didn't hear about any of this until yesterday.


deborah grabien - Aug 03, 2005 11:52:22 am PDT #3412 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

So, for those who have been reading the new series:

Just heard back from Jenn. She starts out with:

Read the book. Loved it. Beautiful writing. Compelling insight.

and goes on. But she also feels - I tend to agree, basically - that it might be tricky to market as a straight mystery, since it's really more about them than about the crime. That, of course, is a highly simplified version of her take - she feels the pacing is too measured for a straight mystery, that the flashbacks - which she adores and which she thinks makes the book as strong as it is - dilute the pacing that's a present requirement for the current straight mystery genre. What did I see it as?

My first reaction to that is, chick lit. It's a man telling the story, but it's the womens' story, they're at the heart of it.

So, readers of the Ws-I-P: opinions?


SailAweigh - Aug 03, 2005 1:45:20 pm PDT #3413 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

My own feeling is that the outgoing president is a dopey little Anne Coulter wannabe who ought to be dropped down a laundry chute into an escape-proof room containing thirty horny sailors.

I'm sorry, Deb, but even the average horny sailor (me included) is much too discriminating to accept such burnt offerings.

As to your current series? Chick lit, all the way. Romance and angst and, by the way, a little mystery for good measure.


deborah grabien - Aug 03, 2005 1:49:15 pm PDT #3414 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I'm sorry, Deb, but even the average horny sailor (me included) is much too discriminating to accept such burnt offerings.

BWAH! I was thinking more along the line of Geoffrey Rush's character in PotC, bad teeth and all, but she's probably got a sooper-seekrit "fucked by pirates" fantasy in place, and why gratify her?


SailAweigh - Aug 03, 2005 2:06:22 pm PDT #3415 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

why gratify her?

Well, except I don't think it would. She seems very much the type to lie back, close her eyes and think of England/the Queen/GWB.


deborah grabien - Aug 03, 2005 2:25:45 pm PDT #3416 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Well, except I don't think it would. She seems very much the type to lie back, close her eyes and think of England/the Queen/GWB

"Think unsexy thoughts. Think unsexy thoughts. Think unsexy thoughts."


Anne W. - Aug 04, 2005 3:43:49 am PDT #3417 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

RWA kerfuffle? I have heard whispers of such a thing, but know not what it is about.


Susan W. - Aug 04, 2005 6:16:52 am PDT #3418 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Anne, go here: [link]

It describes what happened and links to several different blogs with their own takes.

Incidentally, RWA has just accepted its first authors of gay romance as members:

[link]

(As far as I know they're the first who've applied, though I'm guessing there are probably others already members who aren't published yet or haven't published with an RWA-recognized publisher, which would exclude most small press and e-published authors--recognition is based on print runs and sales figures, IIRC. Really, until you're published, RWA doesn't *know* what you write.) This has led some of us to speculate that one of the OTHER big summer kerfuffles was because the person(s) causing these problems heard that this author team had made a sale to an RWA-recognized publisher and intended to join, and was trying to block them.


Anne W. - Aug 04, 2005 6:22:51 am PDT #3419 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Susan, thanks!

reads link

OMGWTF!!!


Fay - Aug 04, 2005 6:24:30 am PDT #3420 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Word.