But if the world doesn't end, I'm gonna need a note.

Cordelia ,'Potential'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Connie Neil - Jun 21, 2005 7:41:03 am PDT #2865 of 10001
brillig

I've seen it used a lot in this sort of situation, "It grieves me to tell you X" or "You know how it grieves me when you act this way." I always thought it was a Britishism. I do know it's used in formal-type situations.

Heck, it's in a song I love, "And it'll grieve me so to" something or "And it grieves me so to" something.


sfmarty - Jun 21, 2005 7:44:53 am PDT #2866 of 10001
Who? moi??

Say you're sitting high atop Writers' Mountain, being the guru. Students of writing toil up the hillside, to ask you for the One True Pearl of Wisdom that will shine the glow of enlightment on their labours.

One line, and one line only. Distill, please. What would you tell them?

Sorry I am late to this.

Don't edit until the story is done.


deborah grabien - Jun 21, 2005 7:45:38 am PDT #2867 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

connie, that's what I meant - not sure of how to phrase what looked different. Let me try for examples, instead.

"I mourn my dead love. I mourn for my dead love. I grieve for my dead love."

IOW, I've seen "mourn" used both ways, but never seen "grieve" used without something to qualify it.

Crap. No access to memory bank sections dealing with linguistic architecture terminoloy this morning. Send donuts.


deborah grabien - Jun 21, 2005 7:46:40 am PDT #2868 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Don't edit until the story is done.

That was Betsy's advice: write first, edit after.

I don't actually work that way - I edit as I work. But that's just my process, and it's why I find everyone else's fascinating.


Connie Neil - Jun 21, 2005 7:48:04 am PDT #2869 of 10001
brillig

I wonder if "it grieves me" is a Southern thing.


sfmarty - Jun 21, 2005 7:48:18 am PDT #2870 of 10001
Who? moi??

A friend of mine has been writing a story for years. She edits and edits and edits. I suspect she is still on chapter one.


Amy - Jun 21, 2005 7:50:11 am PDT #2871 of 10001
Because books.

I also edit as I go, but it helps get me back into the story the next day. I read previous day's work, edit and polish, and then start the new stuff. Works for me.

I've heard "it grieves me", connie.


deborah grabien - Jun 21, 2005 7:54:27 am PDT #2872 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I've heard it "it grieves me" all my life. What I've never heard before is "I grieve you."

So, someone is dying, I'm standing over their bed. I might say "I will mourn you". It wouldn't occur to me to say "I will grieve you."


Connie Neil - Jun 21, 2005 7:57:42 am PDT #2873 of 10001
brillig

I don't know the real grammatical terms, but I don't think I've hard forms other than "X grieves me" or "he grieves for". Active form? Passive, because something else receives the action? Present tense? Third-person as the subject of the verb? I can put together a kick-ass sentence, but I wouldn't be able to describe it technically under threat of torture.


Steph L. - Jun 21, 2005 7:58:19 am PDT #2874 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I've heard "it grieves me", connie.

It's in the Giles/Tara duet from OMWF.