But if the world doesn't end, I'm gonna need a note.

Cordelia ,'Potential'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Allyson - May 02, 2005 8:19:42 pm PDT #1630 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

"I just wrote a thousand words on daisies and I must share it!"

If there's a hell, I'll have to listen to those thousand words on an endless loop while entering serial numbers on an excel speadsheet for all eternity.

I'm now rewriting the title piece in my collection, and I keep losing my point. I think the cat batted it under the fridge.


deborah grabien - May 02, 2005 8:22:58 pm PDT #1631 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Connie, yup - serious work is right. I don't demand that anyone in the group be published, or anything like it, but I do want actual work being produced, if I'm going to feed them and all that...

If there's a hell, I'll have to listen to those thousand words on an endless loop while entering serial numbers on an excel speadsheet for all eternity.

Add having to create Powerpoint presentations, and listening to a Reagan-era economist tell me about supply-side economics, and the screams of eternal torment you hear will be mine. I'd take the Lake of Burning Fire over that shit any day.

I think the cat batted it under the fridge.

Possibly it's in Aruba, on the beach, with my motivation?


Susan W. - May 02, 2005 8:43:26 pm PDT #1632 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

If there's a hell, I'll have to listen to those thousand words on an endless loop while entering serial numbers on an excel speadsheet for all eternity.

t snerk

I can easily see how a critique group could turn into a circle jerk, but so far it hasn't turned into that with the ones I'm in. I think it helps that everyone is at least serious about improving their craft, and most of us are dead serious about seeking publication.


Susan W. - May 02, 2005 8:46:53 pm PDT #1633 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

It's a cheesy little romance novel. Modern times, about an actress reunited with her long, lost love on a movie set and she's determined not to let him again, which, of course, she invariably does. Nothing award winning, just fun and kinda mine and Joe's story set with more money, more fame, and the same sarcastic love.

Sounds fun!

And speaking of critique groups, now that I've made my page quota for the day, I really need to go read some pieces for the new online group. I happened to post first, and they've already commented on mine--useful suggestions and feedback, telling me I really must give some more concrete descriptive details in the early going, but overall, they like it! Always nice to have brand new people enjoy your work.


Aims - May 02, 2005 8:47:43 pm PDT #1634 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Sounds fun!

It is. It's totally not serious (at least, to anyone but me).


deborah grabien - May 02, 2005 8:50:13 pm PDT #1635 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

One day, I mightn't feel so intimidated (for lack of a better word) and post a bit of my novel in here

Aimee, I've said this before, but this seems a good moment to say it again: just remember to be careful about how much you post. If you're serious about finishing it and trying to get it published, a lot of publishing houses look at segments published online in a publicly viewable forum as being "previously published."

Email for input, she is our friend.


Aims - May 02, 2005 8:51:12 pm PDT #1636 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

just remember to be careful about how much you post. If you're serious about finishing it and trying to get it published, a lot of publishing houses look at segments published online in a publicly viewable forum as being "previously published."

Got it. (Almost typed Git. Whole other meaning.) :)


deborah grabien - May 02, 2005 8:53:33 pm PDT #1637 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Oh, there's another definite plus about a writers group in which the ongoing work is read aloud: it allows the writers to get a better feel for how they read in public.

If you publish a novel, you publicise it: that's a bottom line. It's especially a bottom line because most publishers of fiction have their heads up their hineys and do not pay to promote anyone other than their A-list authors, not beyond sending out ARCs.

So, eventually, you will make friends with the bookstores who carry your book, as many of those bookstores as possible, and you'll likely set up signings. And, very often, signings mean readings and Q&A.

The public stuff, for promoting fiction, is a biggie.


Susan W. - May 02, 2005 9:07:44 pm PDT #1638 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

And Aimee, if you want any advice on Romance Writers of America, feel free to drop me a line. I've had good luck with them, because the Seattle chapter is very active and there's a wonderful online chapter for Regency writers, and I'm sure if I asked around, I could find out what's available in LA and/or about other online chapters.

Back to critiquing.....


Topic!Cindy - May 03, 2005 4:05:28 am PDT #1639 of 10001
What is even happening?

Nothing award winning, just fun and kinda mine and Joe's story set with more money, more fame, and the same sarcastic love.
Oh! That sounds great.