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The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Anne W. - Feb 21, 2005 2:35:04 am PST #161 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Susan, I know I haven't commented much on your tales of the publishing world and so on, but it is all fascinating, and I know I'm going to go back and look at your posts if I ever do get around to finishing any original fiction.

ION, my uncle just got a story published in Glimmer Train! Go him!


Polter-Cow - Feb 21, 2005 4:07:58 am PST #162 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Cool, Anne! Congrats for him.


Susan W. - Feb 21, 2005 7:28:47 am PST #163 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Susan, I know I haven't commented much on your tales of the publishing world and so on, but it is all fascinating, and I know I'm going to go back and look at your posts if I ever do get around to finishing any original fiction.

Thanks! I'm glad to know I'm not the only one fascinated by this stuff. I think I did right to prove to myself I could finish a manuscript before joining RWA and starting hardcore industry research, because it can distract from actual writing. OTOH, I think now is the right time to learn and start building a network for myself. That way, once I have a ms ready to market again, I can hit the ground running. And I think (hope!) I'll be savvy enough to avoid scams or other major missteps.

Congrats to your uncle!


erikaj - Feb 21, 2005 11:40:10 am PST #164 of 10001
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

Why is this ending such a bitch?


Susan W. - Feb 21, 2005 11:40:15 am PST #165 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

This was so much easier when I wrote in first person....

I'm debating the wisdom of writing a few scenes from my villain's POV. Maybe three in the entire book, just to give a sense of his motivation, how he views himself as the hero of his own story, and the sense of ill-usage he has from life and from Jack and Anna in particular. I think it'd make that part of the plot stronger, but I'm afraid it'll just seem weird to have a book that's mostly a 50-50 split between two characters dip into a third head for a stray scene here and there.


Polter-Cow - Feb 21, 2005 11:45:10 am PST #166 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think it'd make that part of the plot stronger, but I'm afraid it'll just seem weird to have a book that's mostly a 50-50 split between two characters dip into a third head for a stray scene here and there.

It could be weird, or it could be essential. How is the book structured? Is it all chapters, or is there a part one, two, three, etc.? Could you use the villain sections as transitions between parts? Deliberately set them off so they don't feel as random?

(My mind is thinking of It, and how King used the Derry Interludes.)


Susan W. - Feb 21, 2005 11:52:16 am PST #167 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Chapters. In my own head it's divided into three acts, but I'm not planning to divide the book itself that way. Well, except that there's a bit of a time/space break between Acts II and III, so I'll need to do something to show that we're in England and it's November now. And the villain actually dies near the end of Act II.

And even if it weren't for the whole dying thing, the places where I feel like I need the villain POV don't fit into obvious transitional points.


Amy - Feb 21, 2005 12:00:58 pm PST #168 of 10001
Because books.

the places where I feel like I need the villain POV don't fit into obvious transitional points

Do you ever do scene breaks within a chapter? (I feel like I should know this, but I can't remember.) You could switch to villain's POV that way a couple of times. Just be sure you've set it up so it doesn't feel abrupt, even if it only means a character mentioning his name in the previous scene or something.


Susan W. - Feb 21, 2005 12:05:21 pm PST #169 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Do you ever do scene breaks within a chapter? (I feel like I should know this, but I can't remember.)

Yep, I do. And if I'm switching POV, even if it's a continuous scene, I always put in a line break to prepare the reader for the transition.

I think I'm just gonna try it. If it doesn't work, I can just take it out.


erikaj - Feb 21, 2005 12:20:28 pm PST #170 of 10001
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

I'm having trouble setting up my clues, y'all. How big should they be? Because the last thing I want is to create a giant "No! Duh." But the days when a broken cigarette can solve(excuse me, put down) a case are long dead.

Witness: Are you going to look for clues?
Detective Howard: The body in the basement is sort of a big clue.
And I know my P.I. can't be present for everything that happens with the police investigation, but her brother is a patrol sargeant...maybe she can nag Little Bro. She also made a "connection", in Xander-speak with the guy that caught the case, but he can't give her too much info, right?