I see your uhhhhhhhhhhh and raise you a gnyeh.

Buffy ,'Potential'


Spike's Bitches 22: You've got Angel breath  

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brenda m - Mar 18, 2005 8:42:25 am PST #7587 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Is she in some weird gray area between being totally brain-dead and being... responsive?

Her cerebral cortex has liquified.


erikaj - Mar 18, 2005 8:42:39 am PST #7588 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah, there was a thing in Mouth says she laughs and stuff. But, I think not.


Aims - Mar 18, 2005 8:43:00 am PST #7589 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Can he divorce her, legally?

I believe so, yes.


brenda m - Mar 18, 2005 8:44:30 am PST #7590 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Can he divorce her, legally?

No reason why he couldn't, I don't think. And honestly, it would have made life much easier on him. There are people who question his motives but...I don't know what they think he expects to get from this, beyond his stated goal of carrying out her wishes.


Betsy HP - Mar 18, 2005 8:46:11 am PST #7591 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

By now, everybody is locked into their positions and nobody will ever change.

But back when it all started, we had a husband (and by all accounts a loving husband who studied nursing in hopes of bringing his wife back) who said that his wife had wanted to die rather than live in a persistent vegetative state. And we had some parents who said, no, she's alive, she'll get better, she wouldn't have wanted to die.

  • EVERY SINGLE COURT*, appeals court, you name it, has said (A) the husband gets to decide and (B) Terri Schiavo has no cerebral function and (C) she told her husband she didn't want to live like this.

If you boil it down to he said, she said, you have to choose between the husband and the parents. Settled case law says that the husband chooses, and I think that's right.


tommyrot - Mar 18, 2005 8:47:17 am PST #7592 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Wow.

Rejecting requests from Republican leaders in Congress, a Florida judge on Friday refused to again delay permission to remove the feeding tube keeping alive Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged woman at the center of a battle between her husband and her parents.

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Lyra Jane - Mar 18, 2005 8:49:45 am PST #7593 of 10001
Up with the sun

No reason why he couldn't, I don't think.

I had kind of assumed he couldn't, because she can't respond or work with an attorney, and did not choose to abandon him. (IOW, I thought divorce had to be mutual, even if one party pursued it much more agressively.) If he can, I don't understand why he hasn't, other than that he feels he can carry out her wishes better than her parents could.

It's sad all around, but I do think her parents should let go.


Amy - Mar 18, 2005 8:50:25 am PST #7594 of 10001
Because books.

Wow. Massive x-posting there. Thanks for all the input.

How can the insurance money be gone, though, since she hasn't died yet?

I've seen the videos they show occasionally of her "responding" but I had no idea that her cerebrum had disintegrated. Flowers aren't sentient, but they still turn toward the sun when they need it -- if she opens her eyes or her muscles flex, I can't imagine that proves thought or feeling on her part. I'm assuming they've done brain wave scans (or whatever they're technically called) to prove how little brain activity she has?

I feel horrible for her parents, loving her so much (although, they really need to let go in my opinion), and I feel equally horrible about the idea of her starving to death, but it's also just fucking unbelievable that it came to this. If her husband is truly trying to carry out what he believes were her wishes on this kind of eventuality, then more power to him.


erikaj - Mar 18, 2005 8:50:39 am PST #7595 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I think the husband and parents have not had much love lost, anyway. Wow, one's brain can be replaced by fluid?! Just, yikes.


DavidS - Mar 18, 2005 8:51:30 am PST #7596 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Wow, one's brain can be replaced by fluid?! Just, yikes.

Mostly from watching Fox.