Hey, man, where are my pants? I have my hippo dignity!

Oz ,'Bring On The Night'


Spike's Bitches 22: You've got Angel breath  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Connie Neil - Mar 15, 2005 7:38:16 am PST #6573 of 10001
brillig

I'm afraid my automatic reaction to someone yelling at me to do something is to defy them. I don't do the yelling thing.


Aims - Mar 15, 2005 7:39:17 am PST #6574 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

The screaming part was my favorite. It got a lot of my cramped feelings out.


§ ita § - Mar 15, 2005 7:39:48 am PST #6575 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm afraid my automatic reaction to someone yelling at me to do something is to defy them

Even if you want to do the thing they're exhorting you to do? Isn't that a bit self-defeating?


Connie Neil - Mar 15, 2005 7:44:36 am PST #6576 of 10001
brillig

Even if you want to do the thing they're exhorting you to do? Isn't that a bit self-defeating?

Probably. But I don't believe yelling at people is conducive to cooperation. It's a personal thing.


erikaj - Mar 15, 2005 7:45:55 am PST #6577 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Yes. Hence the fun of "authority issues".


§ ita § - Mar 15, 2005 7:48:24 am PST #6578 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't believe yelling at people is conducive to cooperation

What's a good way to get you fired up and to push past your pre-conceived definitions of your limits? What pumps you up in a group setting like that?

I don't yell at people because of an authority thing. I feel I have just as much authority (often more) when I'm talking quietly. But to infect them with energy, I've not found anything to compare with yelling myself -- because they need to yell too, and I have to set an energetic example.

Do as I do, and as I say -- that sort of thing.


Connie Neil - Mar 15, 2005 7:49:37 am PST #6579 of 10001
brillig

Yelling, in my mind, equates to the person doing the yelling having no respect for the recipient. If the yeller believed the person was capable of doing whatever was being asked, then there would be no need to bring verbal violence into the situation. Either the yeller holds the recipient in contempt or the yeller feels he's at a disadvantage that can only be compensated with verbal violence.


Connie Neil - Mar 15, 2005 7:52:00 am PST #6580 of 10001
brillig

What's a good way to get you fired up and to push past your pre-conceived definitions of your limits?

Tell me what's in it for me. Appeal to my reason. Emotional appeals and cheerleading make me suspicious.


beekaytee - Mar 15, 2005 7:52:55 am PST #6581 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

The screaming part was my favorite. It got a lot of my cramped feelings out.

In the past, I've gotten my cramped feelings out by arguing in my head...the one place where I'm perfectly clever, perfectly cunning and perfectly right.

Being afraid of krav!screaming reminds me of one of my favorite lines in Lost Boys where the Frog brothers react to their first real vamp killing mission. "Yeah, but before, they didn't open their eyes and talk!"

People hitting back will be a new adventure.


Scrappy - Mar 15, 2005 7:53:52 am PST #6582 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Well, yelling at is different from yelling in a cheerleady kind of way. I know in getting people pumped up, yelling can make people feel better and more excited. "You can do it! Jump! Yes! Come on! Terrific!" It's very hard to get the energy up in a room with a modulated voice.