Lorne: Back in Pylea they used to call me "sweet potato." Connor: Really. Lorne: Yeah, well, the exact translation was "fragrant tuber" but…

'Conviction (1)'


Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Feb 15, 2005 1:30:42 pm PST #7964 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I will not complete 100% as two of the tasks require developing plans from scratch and I have no energy to do that.


DXMachina - Feb 15, 2005 1:51:42 pm PST #7965 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I had to laugh at the pendulum experiment in the last ep, though. That so would not work. I suspect there is a combination of actual math/science and lots of hand-waving.

Yeah, I looked askance at that bit myself. I like the show a lot, and I think the actors are great. I worry that they're going to run out of math solvable crimes, though.


§ ita § - Feb 15, 2005 1:57:32 pm PST #7966 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I worry that they're going to run out of math solvable crimes, though.

As a network exec, I'd make them give me, like 30, before agreeing to continue. Not plots, just solvable and reasonably distinct crimes.

Then again, House is still on the air, and it doesn't really look like it varies much. The methodology, I mean. The medicine is Aramaic to me. Can you imagine the bills incurred by their diagnoses? Or lack thereof?


DavidS - Feb 15, 2005 2:34:50 pm PST #7967 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

New Yorkers, I'm going to be on the radio tomorrow.

Sounds of Blue with Bob Putignano
Wednesday 9:00A to 1:00P on 89.1 WFDU-Fm

I think I'm going to be on between 11:30 and noon East Coast time.


Hil R. - Feb 15, 2005 2:41:55 pm PST #7968 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I wonder about the math in Numbers, though. I take it on faith, cause, so not mathy, but I found myself wondering what would all the math-oriented B'tas think? Is this all accurate, or TV bullshit?

Most of the equations, at least as far as I've been able to tell, have looked like they actually do what he says they're supposed to do, within the field where they're usually used. The part that makes me most skeptical is just that taking those equations and trying to apply them to human behavior will be anywhere near accurate, but that's pretty much an issue with the premise.

I was also kind of iffy on the episode where he was so obsessed with the P=NP problem -- that deals with a field of math that's pretty much as far as you can get from what they've usually shown him doing and still be math. There've also been a few lines where the actor just got the emphasis wrong, and it was pretty obvious that he had no idea what he was saying.


sarameg - Feb 15, 2005 2:45:31 pm PST #7969 of 10002

Jesse's prety durn peppy and is probably going to laugh at me for using that word, but I think so.

worry that they're going to run out of math solvable crimes, though.

Eh, there are lord knows enough classic physics problems (first couple of years of college physics) they could incorporate if so inclined. Throw in friction and they'll at least seem a little more complex....


Allyson - Feb 15, 2005 2:55:41 pm PST #7970 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I can't watch Numbers. Math makes me go blind and drool. All higher brain functions shut down and I'm only capable of breathing and bowel movements.

Alternately, math sometimes makes me angry and I start throwing rocks at it and howling like a baboon.


erikaj - Feb 15, 2005 3:52:26 pm PST #7971 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Allyson is me, here.


Scrappy - Feb 15, 2005 3:57:14 pm PST #7972 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Yeah, but the math in the show is like a McGyver math. It might make you say, Huh, cool when they explain some theory, but it's chosen to be cool with no knowledge on your part (Me, I'm a math hater from way back). You don't actually have to understand how to use the gum wrapper and the nail clipper to make a bazooka to enjoy waching McG do it.


§ ita § - Feb 15, 2005 4:09:37 pm PST #7973 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They don't explain very much at all. So far it's been on the level of "I used an equation, and I think that it will/did happen this way." Then they draw some pictures, scribble fast, but it's easily blurred.

It's an okay show.