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Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


beth b - Feb 11, 2005 12:46:57 pm PST #6482 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

yay I fixed my chair.

I only noticed that some saleries are about what I make part time - and people are living on them. and I noticed Betsy's morgage payment only because it is close to my two morgages on my house.


Betsy HP - Feb 11, 2005 12:47:02 pm PST #6483 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I'm always happy to offer ita relief.


Liese S. - Feb 11, 2005 12:47:08 pm PST #6484 of 10002
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I'd be free labor.

Ooh! I'll take you up on that -- we are so going to have a bale-raising party. A year or so down the road, though. It is fascinating, isn't it? And it would be just perfect for us out here, it's so dry. Our leaky sieve of a cinder block house now is even passive solar quite nicely, I can't imagine what a truly insulated house would be like.

We've got a buddy (the couple that owns the kennel we use in AZ) who are thinking about doing a strawbale addition to their house, and we're going to help them with it to gain experience for ours. Thinking about doing a workshop, too.

How's that work?

I work for a nonprofit and one of the areas it benefits has provided housing for us. The church owns a large campus (used to be a school) and we live in one of their houses, rent-free, in exchange for doing some work around the church and for working with their kids. We pay communal utilities ($200), it's not split out to our individual usage, and we pay to have water hauled in to our tank ($85).

It's nice in that it's cheap and enables us to live out here on what we make, but it's also a problem in that there's no actual landlord, so when things happen like, oh for example, the back half of our house floods with sewage while we're away, there's not actually any recourse. It's fixed now, btw, the old former missionary came out and dug up some old clean-outs we didn't know were there, and well, cleaned out the lines.


Allyson - Feb 11, 2005 12:47:53 pm PST #6485 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

If i were running the porn site, I'd call the magazines, say, "I make x amount of money per week with it, and I'll put up a blank page for two weeks if you reimburse me for the loss" and then I'd feel superior while doing nothing for two weeks.


beth b - Feb 11, 2005 12:49:14 pm PST #6486 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I get not being able to disclose, but is it shocking to read other folks disclosing?

nope. I find it interesting.But I wopn't go into to too much detail because my finaces don't invovle just me.


Lilty Cash - Feb 11, 2005 12:49:26 pm PST #6487 of 10002
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

I had one friend who was VERY irritable when it came to others mentioning money. When I was debating switching jobs, I was thinking out loud with him, and, while not throwing out exact figures, mentioned a percentage increase, and he started cutting me off saying "I don't need to know that! You don't need to talk about that!". It was almost a knee-jerk reaction with him. I felt bad, because I didn't mean to go to an uncomfortable place with him, but at the same time, I wasn't asking what he made or anything.


Noumenon - Feb 11, 2005 12:51:26 pm PST #6488 of 10002
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

I think it's interesting that rents and salaries are not nearly as correlated as I thought. When we only discussed rents it seemed to sort out along lines of New York/LA high, flyover states low. The salaries are much more variable.


beth b - Feb 11, 2005 12:51:27 pm PST #6489 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

that strickes me as odd, Lilty. I mean, people work for money - so % up and down have to be part of the job changeing situation


tommyrot - Feb 11, 2005 12:51:43 pm PST #6490 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I was thinking out loud with him, and, while not throwing out exact figures, mentioned a percentage increase,

See, I'd think that mentioning a % increase would be benign compared to disclosing what you make. Or maybe that just me - percentages don't frighten me....

eta: x-post.


Liese S. - Feb 11, 2005 12:53:34 pm PST #6491 of 10002
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Ha. Now you can all put together my profile, and find infinite personal identification re: me, and you can "it takes a thief" me and come and relieve me of my copious amounts of possessions and cash.

However, you won't be able to do this, because I refuse to tell you my birthdate! Ahah! You just know my full name, where I live, what I do, how much I make, what kind of car I drive, what my house is like, who my company is, where I get my money, what I spend my money on, how old I am, my marital status, my gender, my previous jobskills, my race and ethnic heritage, my isp, my daily routine, how long my hair is, and what I eat. It's okay, though, because you all have very bad memories.