There are no absolutes. No right and wrong. Haven't you learned anything working for the Powers? There are only choices.

Jasmine ,'Power Play'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Feb 11, 2005 11:52:33 am PST #6421 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

If she tells me one more time to come skiing with her, I'm going to scream.

You totally should. That's just wrong. I mean, I don't need to know the intimate details of anyone else's tax returns, but I'd hate to think I was upsetting anyone.

I just wonder if she stops and thinks about it. Granted, I've been at my job for 10 years, but I'm still an editor, which is not a position notorious for its large salary, unless you run the New York Times. And she's the COO of the local organ/tissue donation bank. The COO, even for a non-profit, is gonna make more money than an editor.


Jesse - Feb 11, 2005 11:53:34 am PST #6422 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

because if they can't deal with making me comfortable then we aren't that close anymore.

Yeah, right on.


Atropa - Feb 11, 2005 11:53:51 am PST #6423 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

That's not what leeches do. Leeches ask, piteously, or lurk with eyelashes aflutter.

Yeah. I'm lucky enough to not have to worry about money. If that means letting someone stay in my hotel room at a con so I can have the pleasure of seeing them, works for me.

Yep. I've been on both sides of it. I don't have a huge problem with a friend offering to pay for a social thing when I'm between jobs because when I'm the one gainfully employed, I'm the one who will say "No, I think this would be fun for both of us. Don't worry, I'll cover it."


Noumenon - Feb 11, 2005 11:55:57 am PST #6424 of 10002
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

My best friend makes close to 3 times what I do, which is just really really annoying.

One of my bad habits is psychoanalyzing people, but you know how they say that income inequality matters more to our self-esteem than our absolute income? Well, you're the only person so far who makes significantly more than I'd guessed from reading their posts over the years... I wonder if the closeness isn't triggering that ancient circuit in your brain that says "There seems to be a lot of food around here, everyone else is prospering... I'd better get a little anxious so I don't get left behind!"


Jesse - Feb 11, 2005 11:56:09 am PST #6425 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Allyson, you should really know that good people chip in when they can, and accept a chip when they can't, and that's what makes the world a nice place to live in.


Lysana - Feb 11, 2005 11:56:09 am PST #6426 of 10002
Hellbound Equal-Opportunity Nookie Hog

Salary: $66K
Rent: $750/mo for an efficiency studio (more like a converted hotel room)
Debt: Student loans of an amount I don't remember, but somewhere around $10K between me and the DH. Filed bankrupcty in 2003 to kick off the credit card debt we'd acquired and couldn't keep up on due to DH's chronic unemployment. Some piddly things relating to emergency room visits and uncovered medical debts.


Nutty - Feb 11, 2005 11:57:37 am PST #6427 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I know we've talked over strategies for how to not spend money when friends have money to spend in the past. I think it was Lilty who asked for advice, last summer.

I thought I was maniacally cheap, till I met my flatmate, who is more maniacal than thou (or me). She has to be, to get by on her income, which right now is all grad school loans. It flatters my sense of cleverness to clip coupons and find bargains, but for her it is absolute necessity.

Actually, that differential in our incomes is something we dance around gently -- when the electricity bill goes up in winter, it's something that's easier for me to bear than for her. I talked her into sharing my Netflix queue, without sharing the costs of the subscription, by calling it a birthday present to both of us.

Suddenly I am thinking, I need to take her out for a drink, just because. Maybe after her exams are over.


Steph L. - Feb 11, 2005 11:58:05 am PST #6428 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

You know what I think the issue is for me? I'm very very prideful, and I hate the thought of anyone thinking, "Oh, poor Steph -- no, literally, *poor* Steph." My best friend and I have been friends since we were 16 (shit, that's more than half our lives), so I don't know why I have this issue of just not saying "Hey, I don't make COO money; can we get pizza?" Hell, she's held my hair when I puked, she's seen me naked, she knows all my dirty secrets. What I earn shouldn't be any big deal.

Dude. Thanks for guiding me through the self-pep-talk, y'all!


Jesse - Feb 11, 2005 11:59:32 am PST #6429 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Go you, Steph. You can alternate cheap/spendy, even. It's not like you're destitute, you just can't ALWAYS have the $40 bottle.


Betsy HP - Feb 11, 2005 12:00:06 pm PST #6430 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Hell, she's held my hair when I puked, she's seen me naked, she knows all my dirty secrets.

Yeah, but we're talking about money here. I mean... that's sacred!