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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sue - Feb 11, 2005 11:05:17 am PST #6376 of 10002
hip deep in pie

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Jesse - Feb 11, 2005 11:09:27 am PST #6377 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My college friends and I have always talked about what we make -- what's been interesting is seeing how different industries work. One friend was making money like non-profit me for years and years before she finally got the big bump. And it was BIG. I know I'll likely never match my for-profit friends, salary-wise, but I also know I make way more than most people, and I live a perfectly comfortable life.


Kristen - Feb 11, 2005 11:10:25 am PST #6378 of 10002

This is part of why it pays to change jobs.

Believe you me, I have tried. For some reason, I have had the worst luck ever in the LA job market. My review is in March and there will be a serious talk. If they don't cough up the dough, I am finally in a place to say, "Take this job and shove it."


Kathy A - Feb 11, 2005 11:11:11 am PST #6379 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

My rent is 22% of my gross, 30% of my take home.

I was surprised just now when I did a mortgage calculation of a hypothetical $150K 2BR condo only a few miles from work, and saw that if I could come up with a $5K downpayment, at today's rates (if my credit rating would get me those rates, which is a big if), the mortgage payment would only be an additional $125 a month. Of course, that doesn't include the condo association fee, which is usually another $100-200/month, nor any repair costs that are currently covered by my landlord.

I think I'll keep renting for a while...


brenda m - Feb 11, 2005 11:11:42 am PST #6380 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

My rent is 24.5% of my gross. I could pay less in another neighborhood, though.

I don't usually consider my student loans in my debt tally. Or rather, I do, but it's a sort of separate category. I've paid off most of my accumulated cc debt though, and now my priority is cleaning up stuff from long ago when I was young[er] and [more] irresponsible.


Jesse - Feb 11, 2005 11:12:03 am PST #6381 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My review is in March and there will be a serious talk. If they don't cough up the dough, I am finally in a place to say, "Take this job and shove it."

Good for you! Seriously, I know it's not that easy to just say "well, get a new job!" but this coworker was wack, staying like she did.


beth b - Feb 11, 2005 11:14:13 am PST #6382 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

my salary is public record I make about 21,500 a year - part time. i guess what I find scary is that at full time - I couldn't make it out here on my own, at least not by staying in our house.

In general, I don't talk about money we make or debt. We hve the morgage, the car and the credit card debt. only the cc debt bothers me. I can't pay the cc down fast enough to make me happy. I could throw the saveings at it. ( that would deplete savings by 1/3 to 1/2), but our savings is right at the 6 months level. I have promised myself that if we make it to july with out dipping in to the savings - one or two credit cards will be paid off with savings.


Kristen - Feb 11, 2005 11:14:19 am PST #6383 of 10002

This job was an entirely new field for me so I never had any idea what was fair pay. But noticing that everyone who found out what I made tended to respond with the drop of their jaw kinda clued me in.


Jessica - Feb 11, 2005 11:14:44 am PST #6384 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The last guide I looked at said that rent should be 12.8% (oddly specific) of your gross pay.

I've heard 30%, but it was from a friend, and I don't know what his source is. (And it's higher in high-rent areas like NYC, SF, etc, though I'm not sure if the averages for NYC include the outer boroughs.)


Nutty - Feb 11, 2005 11:14:59 am PST #6385 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

My rent is 23% of gross, and I have a flatmate. I would have trouble finding a place by myself for the $700 I pay a month.

23% is higher than this "ideal", but like Jesse, I do all right on it. (The place is smallish, but it's in an area I like a lot and has a driveway.) Even with that percentage of my gross going to housing, I manage to save a lot.

Helped, I am sure, by the Nuttykin terror of debt. The only money I owe is student loans, and that's almost done. A look at my living room is immediate evidence of my ability to be in the right place at the right time for family furniture castoffs. If I really really wanted to be frugal, I would give up my car, which I'm not willing to do now it's paid off.