My rent is 22% of my gross, 30% of my take home.

I was surprised just now when I did a mortgage calculation of a hypothetical $150K 2BR condo only a few miles from work, and saw that if I could come up with a $5K downpayment, at today's rates (if my credit rating would get me those rates, which is a big if), the mortgage payment would only be an additional $125 a month. Of course, that doesn't include the condo association fee, which is usually another $100-200/month, nor any repair costs that are currently covered by my landlord.

I think I'll keep renting for a while...

My rent is 24.5% of my gross. I could pay less in another neighborhood, though.

I don't usually consider my student loans in my debt tally. Or rather, I do, but it's a sort of separate category. I've paid off most of my accumulated cc debt though, and now my priority is cleaning up stuff from long ago when I was young[er] and [more] irresponsible.

My review is in March and there will be a serious talk. If they don't cough up the dough, I am finally in a place to say, "Take this job and shove it."

Good for you! Seriously, I know it's not that easy to just say "well, get a new job!" but this coworker was wack, staying like she did.

my salary is public record I make about 21,500 a year - part time. i guess what I find scary is that at full time - I couldn't make it out here on my own, at least not by staying in our house.

In general, I don't talk about money we make or debt. We hve the morgage, the car and the credit card debt. only the cc debt bothers me. I can't pay the cc down fast enough to make me happy. I could throw the saveings at it. ( that would deplete savings by 1/3 to 1/2), but our savings is right at the 6 months level. I have promised myself that if we make it to july with out dipping in to the savings - one or two credit cards will be paid off with savings.

This job was an entirely new field for me so I never had any idea what was fair pay. But noticing that everyone who found out what I made tended to respond with the drop of their jaw kinda clued me in.

The last guide I looked at said that rent should be 12.8% (oddly specific) of your gross pay.

I've heard 30%, but it was from a friend, and I don't know what his source is. (And it's higher in high-rent areas like NYC, SF, etc, though I'm not sure if the averages for NYC include the outer boroughs.)

My rent is 23% of gross, and I have a flatmate. I would have trouble finding a place by myself for the $700 I pay a month.

23% is higher than this "ideal", but like Jesse, I do all right on it. (The place is smallish, but it's in an area I like a lot and has a driveway.) Even with that percentage of my gross going to housing, I manage to save a lot.

Helped, I am sure, by the Nuttykin terror of debt. The only money I owe is student loans, and that's almost done. A look at my living room is immediate evidence of my ability to be in the right place at the right time for family furniture castoffs. If I really really wanted to be frugal, I would give up my car, which I'm not willing to do now it's paid off.

I am not sure what has kept me from being able to pay off the credit card debt. I think it is just basic lack of discipline at this point, because it is not any of the monthly bills.

For the first 7 years out of college there was just no way, but the pay increase I got 3 years ago should have made more of a difference than it has. I guess the buying a place thing took a chunk and I keep doing things that take 1000 at a time like agency fees and construction. Maybe the beating myself up thing is unwarranted.

oh, it's like self-therapy.

There is something deeply, deeply wrong with people who think it's okay to send me work at 4pm on Friday.

I may smoke the crackpipe of workaholism, but there are limits. When you start pinging my inbox like an IRC bot after 4pm on Friday, you are, my friends, a jackhole.

oh, it's like self-therapy.

What are buffistas for, if not saving money on therapy?