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'Bring On The Night'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Fred Pete - Feb 11, 2005 7:03:30 am PST #6228 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

Yeah. I also work for the Gubbermint and am unionized, so it's probably a more generous plans than most. (But still not as good as working for the Feds.)

U.S. fed --

Sick leave -- 4 hours per pay period, or 13 days/year. You may accumulate as much as you want.

Annual leave (vacation/personal/etc.) -- starts at 4 hours per pay period, increases to 6 (4 weeks/year) after 3 years and 8 (26 days/year) after 15 years. May not carry more than 240 hours (6 weeks) from year to year.

(ETA: And lori, I've been a fed since 1988 and have slightly more than 1000 hours of sick leave saved up. Scary how it can add up, isn't it?)


msbelle - Feb 11, 2005 7:03:54 am PST #6229 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

u r cutiehead.


Lee - Feb 11, 2005 7:10:20 am PST #6230 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

What msbelle said.

Ugh. When I got to the parking garage, it was just barely sprinkling, and my good umbrella is in the office, so I decided to forego my crappy car umbrella. About 45 seconds later it started pouring, so now I am dripping on everything.


Noumenon - Feb 11, 2005 7:10:35 am PST #6231 of 10002
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Did the third world disappear overnight? It's not unique, it's not American. It's just unfortunate.

Do third world countries have enough jobs for people to have three? My imagination of the person working 100 hours a week in other countries is a) the Ukrainian working 50 hours at a technological job and driving back to the village to raise cabbages b) the Chinese person locked in a single factory not being paid for overtime, or c) African water sellers and truck drivers who work one job dawn to dusk, with a lot of waiting around. With all the unemployment, I just imagine getting a factory job plus a short-order cook job plus a maid job to be like winning the lottery three times instead of pretty easy like it is here.


-t - Feb 11, 2005 7:12:02 am PST #6232 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't have sick leave, and I don't see 12 days of menstrual leave being enormously helpful, but I guess if it's better than nothing.


lori - Feb 11, 2005 7:12:26 am PST #6233 of 10002

Fred, we have a cap of 960 on accrued sick hours. Almost the same accrual rate as you, though (8 hrs/month). It is scary how much doesn't get used.

21 days vacation/year (after 10 years) and a yearly personal day. Max 320. Those I burn through.


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2005 7:18:53 am PST #6234 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just imagine getting a factory job plus a short-order cook job plus a maid job to be like winning the lottery three times

If wearing yourself into the ground can be called lottery-winning, sure.

Trust me. Having to do (and being able to try) a little bit of this, some of that, and whatever else comes along to feed your kids is not a first world problem/privilege. I'm stunned by the viewpoint that it could be. So she sells fruit in the market, cleans floors, and takes in laundry. This is your lottery winner? He's a gardener, a manual labourer for hire, and he paints houses when he gets a chance. He also tries to sell pirated crap from the US. There is no welfare or medicaid or pension or other form of government money to help the family keep their heads above water.

Yay, lottery.


lori - Feb 11, 2005 7:21:30 am PST #6235 of 10002

More on the star of Bride and Prejudice.


Fiona - Feb 11, 2005 7:27:59 am PST #6236 of 10002

Gosh, you all have to work so hard.

Admittedly Germany is one of the most generous countries, but we get 30 days paid vacation a year, plus national holidays (about 12). There are no such things as sick or personal days. If the doctor says that you are ill and fills in the appropriate form, you get that time off work, paid, period.

Cue debate about who pays for the social security system in European countries....


Gudanov - Feb 11, 2005 7:29:44 am PST #6237 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

Cue debate about who pays for the social security system in European countries....

Plenty of social security debate here.