Also: no exploding cars, no gun play, no vertiginous close-ups of the sinus passages. Remind me again why reality television is supposed to represent the decline of civilization.
Because there are no exploding cars.
Honestly, you meet the most appalling sort of people....
Giles ,'Chosen'
Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Ginger - Feb 10, 2005 8:46:51 am PST #5877 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
tommyrot - Feb 10, 2005 8:50:54 am PST #5878 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
The SciFi Channel has renewed Battlestar Galactica for a second season. [link] The link is vaguely spoilery in that it talks about some things the second season will focus on.
Last Friday's ep snagged 3.2 million viewers, which seems pretty good to me for a cable network show.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 10, 2005 9:12:04 am PST #5879 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Yeah, I believe that's almost twice what Farscape was pulling in durng its struggle for renewal. But would BSG fans kill to get their show on air for another year?
I know a lot of men who watch it, but I strongly suspect most of them are the sort who jumped at the chance to purchase the Chris Carmack cover issue of Out this month...
Sadly, I think only Bravo and Showtime even acknowledge the existence of a gay male television viewer demographic. But teenage girls are big business for the networks, and I'd expect that that's the show's #1 target group.
ita, did forget to post a notice about that issue weeks ago at the WX thread? I remember thinking to myself that you specifically would be interested in a copy.
§ ita § - Feb 10, 2005 9:13:38 am PST #5880 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Not a word, Matt, not a word.
::weeps::
Jessica - Feb 10, 2005 9:14:59 am PST #5881 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
But teenage girls are big business for the networks, and I'd expect that that's the show's #1 target group.
Ah, but lesbians = press, and press = more viewers, regardless of target demographic. (The other point that the article makes is that girls kissing is much cheaper than setting something on fire, and much more reversible than a wedding. It's the perfect sweeps stunt because it gets attention without costing anything in terms of money or story.)
Fred Pete - Feb 10, 2005 9:23:00 am PST #5882 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.
(The other point that the article makes is that girls kissing is much cheaper than setting something on fire, and much more reversible than a wedding. It's the perfect sweeps stunt because it gets attention without costing anything in terms of money or story.)
Um, yes. But also true of when men kiss.
§ ita § - Feb 10, 2005 9:29:00 am PST #5883 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
But also true of when men kiss.
Scandal is one thing. Offense is another. More people, I wager, will turn away from the man on man tonguing as opposed to turning towards the kissy face girls.
Jessica - Feb 10, 2005 9:34:50 am PST #5884 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Um, yes. But also true of when men kiss.
On television? I don't think so. Female characters (especially on teen dramas) can kiss other female characters during sweeps without committing to being gay. The only male parallel I can think of is when it's played for broad comedy -- never a gratuitous sexy moment.
Plus, two women is easier to get past the censors. It generates controversy, but not too much controversy. (It's the same double-standard that makes female nudity so much easier to get away with on film than male nudity. Except for Ewan MacGregor, it's a much bigger deal for a man to be naked than a woman.)
Nutty - Feb 10, 2005 9:41:01 am PST #5885 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
When men kiss, the camera goes someplace else. It is the sort of sweeps stunt that only works once, and that once was, Melrose Place in, what, 1992? Long time gone.
If not for cable, gay men on TV would be so bored!
Kat - Feb 10, 2005 9:45:07 am PST #5886 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Except for Ewan MacGregor, it's a much bigger deal for a man to be naked than a woman.
Sigh. (as I'm picturing Pillow Book Ewan).
It's a big big deal, ahem, when Ewan is naked. IJS.
will turn away from the man on man tonguing as opposed to turning towards the kissy face girls.
Well because society has been taught that girl-on-girl action is hot for both the girls and the guys who get to watch.