But also true of when men kiss.
Scandal is one thing. Offense is another. More people, I wager, will turn away from the man on man tonguing as opposed to turning towards the kissy face girls.
Don't worry, I'm not gonna start any sword fights. I'm over that phase.
Mal ,'War Stories'
Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
§ ita § - Feb 10, 2005 9:29:00 am PST #5883 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Jessica - Feb 10, 2005 9:34:50 am PST #5884 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Um, yes. But also true of when men kiss.
On television? I don't think so. Female characters (especially on teen dramas) can kiss other female characters during sweeps without committing to being gay. The only male parallel I can think of is when it's played for broad comedy -- never a gratuitous sexy moment.
Plus, two women is easier to get past the censors. It generates controversy, but not too much controversy. (It's the same double-standard that makes female nudity so much easier to get away with on film than male nudity. Except for Ewan MacGregor, it's a much bigger deal for a man to be naked than a woman.)
Nutty - Feb 10, 2005 9:41:01 am PST #5885 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
When men kiss, the camera goes someplace else. It is the sort of sweeps stunt that only works once, and that once was, Melrose Place in, what, 1992? Long time gone.
If not for cable, gay men on TV would be so bored!
Kat - Feb 10, 2005 9:45:07 am PST #5886 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Except for Ewan MacGregor, it's a much bigger deal for a man to be naked than a woman.
Sigh. (as I'm picturing Pillow Book Ewan).
It's a big big deal, ahem, when Ewan is naked. IJS.
will turn away from the man on man tonguing as opposed to turning towards the kissy face girls.
Well because society has been taught that girl-on-girl action is hot for both the girls and the guys who get to watch.
Jessica - Feb 10, 2005 9:47:40 am PST #5887 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Sigh. It's a big big deal, ahem, when Ewan is naked. IJS.
He's got a huge talent! t /Moulin Rouge
Kat - Feb 10, 2005 9:56:48 am PST #5888 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
bahaha. I had forgotten that.
My example shouldn't have been Pillow Book. It should have been Velvet Goldmine. cause that also has the eyeliner and the hot boy-on-boy action.
shrift - Feb 10, 2005 10:03:40 am PST #5889 of 10002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
cause that also has the eyeliner and the hot boy-on-boy action.
Not to mention leather pants, oil, and glitter.
Anne W. - Feb 10, 2005 10:05:41 am PST #5890 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
Note to self: Rent Velvet Goldmine ASAP.
msbelle - Feb 10, 2005 10:15:27 am PST #5891 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
boss just walked into my office as I am printing out resumes, on the internet, and packing up to leave early. HA!
Kat - Feb 10, 2005 10:22:36 am PST #5892 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
Well, sometimes it works like that, msbelle.