Damn, Plei. I'm going to have to stop by a bookstore and look that up.
Sometimes when I'm sitting in class... You know, I'm not thinking about class, 'cause that would never happen. I think about kissing you. And it's like everything stops. It's like, it's like freeze frame. Willow kissage.
Oz ,'First Date'
Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
§ ita § - Feb 10, 2005 7:59:01 am PST #5866 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Nutty - Feb 10, 2005 8:00:46 am PST #5867 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Well, I think that we say "business partner" these days in order to clarify that it's not romantic partner. I have the same associations as you all on that front.
I just hadn't heard romantic partner used in news coverage in months --I don't know why. Coverage of newly-married couples uses phrases like "Person X, who has been with Person Y for 7 years..." which is about as vague a construction as I think is allowed in journalism bylaws.
DavidS - Feb 10, 2005 8:03:10 am PST #5868 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Eww. Lee has a fish muffin.
This sounds lewd. Is it sweeps week?
Jon Carroll wrote an excellent column about his Project Runway love and why reality shows often have more compelling narratives than scripted shows.
§ ita § - Feb 10, 2005 8:06:46 am PST #5869 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't think he makes that case, David. It seems he's saying that reality TV can play with the big boys, not that it often wins.
DavidS - Feb 10, 2005 8:11:26 am PST #5870 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
There seems to be a positive value judgement here:
Reality shows also deal in narrative; the editors take the raw footage and make a story. Since the story must have some grounding in what happened, the story is not predictable. Good guys do not always win. Bad people are sometimes rewarded. Also: no exploding cars, no gun play, no vertiginous close- ups of the sinus passages. Remind me again why reality television is supposed to represent the decline of civilization.
erikaj - Feb 10, 2005 8:14:07 am PST #5871 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!
Jon Carroll needs to watch HBO...IJS.
Steph L. - Feb 10, 2005 8:15:24 am PST #5872 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Hec, a fish muffin is not the same thing as a fish taco, which IS lewd.
the Chris Carmack cover issue of Out this month...
I miss Big Gay Luke.
§ ita § - Feb 10, 2005 8:17:59 am PST #5873 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
There seems to be a positive value judgement here:
Positive != often more compelling narrative.
As I said -- I think he says it can play. The sentence "at its best, reality television can be better than most TV dramas and, indeed, most movies" sums that up for me.
bon bon - Feb 10, 2005 8:22:40 am PST #5874 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
My officemate uses "partner."
Anyway, re: the Project Runway article-- the funny thing is that when Austin ended up modeling the uniform last week I too thought, this is what's great and surprising about reality television-- that would never happen in scripted television. Not that that's a bad thing, just that it wouldn't work unless it was real. Also, Jay rules.
I have a working theory that the best seasons of reality television are the first ones, and part of that is the collaborative spirit of the contestants/stars.
Lee - Feb 10, 2005 8:41:53 am PST #5875 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Partner usually means romantic to me, too.
Maybe Kiriko next?
And it's right near krav! Not that it's relevant. It's just a thing.
Sounds like a plan. I'll email you.
Didn't we have the baby yellowtail the first time we Humped?
Yes.
Have you seen it? He's wet.
I think it needs to do on the wet site, so we can all see it.
I have a "oh, we messed up" e-mail to send out today. I'm so very terribly not looking forward to it.
Hate those.
Will people yell at me if they see me here before about 12:30? I need to work.