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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Feb 01, 2005 6:39:53 pm PST #3062 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I still sleep in big tshirts, and I don't care. It gives me a reason to keep all these jackass shirts that say something on them that I like.

And my cat likes to rub noses, and I simultaneously kind of like it and am kind of creeped out by it. But no kissing!


Jesse - Feb 01, 2005 6:40:49 pm PST #3063 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Crap, Debra Messing is on Letterman tonight. Do I need to wait for the clip, for research purposes?


Steph L. - Feb 01, 2005 6:41:37 pm PST #3064 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

But when I go to a friend's house, her cat and I greet by touching noses.

That's how cats greet each other, isn't it?

You just have to have no interest in having sex with the person, and vice versa....there's no lust there at all, on either side.

Hmmm. I, personally, can't be arsed to put the effort into kissing someone (French or American) if there's no lust on *my* part.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2005 6:41:44 pm PST #3065 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My parents wouldn't care if I slept in a thong when I was home with them -- they're extremely (You don't want to come to the nudist beach with us?) relaxed about these things.

I'm theoretically very relaxed, but I sleep in a cami, long-sleeved shirt, long pants and socks more often than not. Even when it's summer, it's a T-shirt and boxers.


Alibelle - Feb 01, 2005 6:45:29 pm PST #3066 of 10002
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Okay, this is a bigger ew for me. No mouth to mouth with animals. I realise I was raised in a culture where it was scared out of us (You'll catch mumps!), but even though I quickly realised that they were lying -- it was too late for me to be remotely comfortable.

No! I didn't mean mouth to mouth with your pet! Though obviously that does happen with dogs, without the wish for it to. I meant that having pets around, or babies around, tends to lead to non-sexual kissing, which this guy had no experience with. I kiss my cats on the top of their heads all the time. And on their tummies, occasionally, when they let me.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2005 6:46:59 pm PST #3067 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I, personally, can't be arsed to put the effort into kissing someone (French or American) if there's no lust on *my* part.

I used to not. Like, to the point where I wouldn't kiss someone unless I intended to have sex with them within the hour.

And then, suddenly, someone said "Hey, give Craig a kiss from me. A long slow wet one." and it all changed. It became arch and playful.

I'm still not big on sexual kissing that doesn't lead to sex though.

I meant that having pets around, or babies around, tends to lead to non-sexual kissing

Never did for me, the pet thing. The idea of kissing an animal to me is pretty much verboten. And I have no surprise at a guy who's never kissed a kid that's not his.


DCJensen - Feb 01, 2005 6:48:05 pm PST #3068 of 10002
All is well that ends in pizza.

Crap, Debra Messing is on Letterman tonight. Do I need to wait for the clip, for research purposes?

I would love for Debra Messing to get a real acting job again.

Of course, I haven't watched Will and Grace for a few years, and she could be adding nuances to her character.


Scrappy - Feb 01, 2005 6:48:15 pm PST #3069 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I wear a worn-in cotton shirt and pajama pants to bed. Not a particularly sexy look, but luckily I have a non-lingerie-centric boyfriend.

I come from a kissy and huggy family. I peck my mom on the mouth in greeting and goodnight but she gives me long lipstick-leaving kisses on my cheek. She and my Aunt Nancy are menaces, I tell you, and noone remotely related to them escapes their orbit with cheek unscathed.


Alibelle - Feb 01, 2005 6:51:37 pm PST #3070 of 10002
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Never did for me, the pet thing. The idea of kissing an animal to me is pretty much verboten. And I have no surprise at a guy who's never kissed a kid that's not his.

But you just explained your weird pet thing, growing up. I agree that it probably wouldn't happen if this guy sprouted, full grown, from his non-sexual family. But was he never a kid with a pet? I know lots of little boys who kiss everything.

Which can be really bothersome, when it crosses your own personal boundaries.


Hil R. - Feb 01, 2005 6:52:59 pm PST #3071 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I don't think it ever would occur to me to kiss a pet.