These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DCJensen - Feb 01, 2005 6:48:05 pm PST #3068 of 10002
All is well that ends in pizza.

Crap, Debra Messing is on Letterman tonight. Do I need to wait for the clip, for research purposes?

I would love for Debra Messing to get a real acting job again.

Of course, I haven't watched Will and Grace for a few years, and she could be adding nuances to her character.


Scrappy - Feb 01, 2005 6:48:15 pm PST #3069 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I wear a worn-in cotton shirt and pajama pants to bed. Not a particularly sexy look, but luckily I have a non-lingerie-centric boyfriend.

I come from a kissy and huggy family. I peck my mom on the mouth in greeting and goodnight but she gives me long lipstick-leaving kisses on my cheek. She and my Aunt Nancy are menaces, I tell you, and noone remotely related to them escapes their orbit with cheek unscathed.


Alibelle - Feb 01, 2005 6:51:37 pm PST #3070 of 10002
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

Never did for me, the pet thing. The idea of kissing an animal to me is pretty much verboten. And I have no surprise at a guy who's never kissed a kid that's not his.

But you just explained your weird pet thing, growing up. I agree that it probably wouldn't happen if this guy sprouted, full grown, from his non-sexual family. But was he never a kid with a pet? I know lots of little boys who kiss everything.

Which can be really bothersome, when it crosses your own personal boundaries.


Hil R. - Feb 01, 2005 6:52:59 pm PST #3071 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I don't think it ever would occur to me to kiss a pet.


Scrappy - Feb 01, 2005 6:54:17 pm PST #3072 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I kiss my cats on the head all the time. I thought everybody did that.


Allyson - Feb 01, 2005 6:54:36 pm PST #3073 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I kiss Ruby ALL THE TIME.


DebetEsse - Feb 01, 2005 6:55:07 pm PST #3074 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Me, too. Cats and dogs (though not all of either that we have.)


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2005 6:55:27 pm PST #3075 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But you just explained your weird pet thing, growing up.

This isn't about my weird pet thing -- this is not only an entire country, but most of the black Americans I've polled recoil the same way and call pet kissing a white thing.

And, it's not just black folk.


Hil R. - Feb 01, 2005 6:56:19 pm PST #3076 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Hmm. The only pets I ever had as a kid were hermit crabs.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2005 6:58:19 pm PST #3077 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Also -- that "weird pet thing" isn't so much a weird thing, as an animal as utility thing. Kissing work animals is ... probably not so common. They were work animals we liked and played with, but still guard dogs.