No studying? Damn! Next thing they'll tell me is I'll have to eat jelly doughnuts or sleep with a supermodel to get things done around here. I ask you, how much can one man give?

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Feb 01, 2005 6:38:35 am PST #2790 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I wonder how much it is that there's a narrower range of expression that is considered 'funny' in women - in other words, it's the audience side of the equation that's out of joint.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2005 6:40:16 am PST #2791 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know an assload of women funnier than that guy, that's for sure.

I do think it's about incentive, mainly. Funny was so not an issue at my all girls school. There was absolutely nothing to be won by it, either from teachers or other students.

The male freshmen that showed up to try out in their first year were either nerds trying to overcome life's stage frights or class clowns who wanted a bigger stage. The women? Some fell into the nerd category, and most of the rest were looking for attention, but not willing to take risks (or look ugly) to get them. Which hamstrung them right there.

That having been said, if a woman got into On The Spot during my tenure, she was basically assured every gig in the world because a) rarity and b) she was typically at least the second best in the entire troupe. It's the middle level that was missing -- women seemed to be incandescent, or not that good. No journeymen, no "pretty goods."

We were lucky to rarely have to come up against quota requirements.


Daisy Jane - Feb 01, 2005 6:42:00 am PST #2792 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Young girls who want attention have other weapons — they can scream, they can cry, they can grow breasts. They can be heartbreakingly beautiful and call me a nerd for imitating the Coneheads all the time. Learning to be funny would seem, for girls, to be more of a last resort.

That up there? Is the problem. That's how we can get attention. Scream, cry or be attractive. Perhaps it's not that being funny is a last resort, but not a generally (meaning societally) valued characteristic in women. Which is, er... funny because most guys I know, once they get past their crushes on the heartbreakingly beautiful women who make fun of them, would rather have the girl who chuckles whenever someone says "I didn't expect..." and makes fun with them.


Jessica - Feb 01, 2005 6:43:21 am PST #2793 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Kristen Schaal will be huge

That whole crop of Mee-ow-ers is doing fantastically. (SNL a few weeks ago was practically a reunion show -- Seth in the cast, Liz in the monologue, and Ryan as Prince Harry during Weekend Update.) Schaal wasn't even close to being the funniest in her cast, but she's got a quirky look and voice that'll take her really far.

t /Mee-ow likes carrots


Cashmere - Feb 01, 2005 6:43:26 am PST #2794 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

It makes so much sense to me that the IRS would want people filing online -- it's got to be so much easier for them.

I think the savings was so much last year that they're extending it to everyone instead of just select taxpayers.

Nora, DON'T MELT YOUR BRAIN! You may need it later.


Kathy A - Feb 01, 2005 6:44:54 am PST #2795 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

My company has its own version of Turbo Tax that it markets, so they let us use it for free. Unfortunately, since I own nothing, I just file at the state and federal websites using the EZ forms, so I don't need to use the very convenient corporate benefit, nor do I need to access the "Ask the tax expert!" discussion board that they have from Feb. 1 to April 15, staffed by co-workers whose regular job is to write tax analysis for the Federal Tax Reporter we publish.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2005 6:45:42 am PST #2796 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If I go down for chai now, I'm scared that "Doing The Butt" will be lodged in my brain. Better by far than "Say My Name" which was my only companion coming in (rental doesn't have a tape drive).

Must wait. Earworm will eat me.


msbelle - Feb 01, 2005 6:47:43 am PST #2797 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I have this urge to buy stuff. Like right now. It is so silly. I do not need anything and certainly do not need to be spending money. Where does this come from?


bon bon - Feb 01, 2005 6:48:58 am PST #2798 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I don't want to beat up on this guy too much-- although the section Heather quoted was remarkably stupid, for the following reasons among others:

1. Men have just as many weapons at their disposal for attracting women, if not more;
2. Women can "grow breasts" if they want to get attention? WTF?!
3. And I don't think female social development is predicated on attracting males.


Cashmere - Feb 01, 2005 6:49:27 am PST #2799 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

I have this urge to buy stuff. Like right now. It is so silly. I do not need anything and certainly do not need to be spending money. Where does this come from?

I've got that feeling, too. It's caused by my anticipation of a tax refund check. I have about three different things I want and I'm trying to justify buying them.