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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2005 6:25:56 am PST #2784 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

my sarcasm-dar is going off

Or perhaps your ironimeter ...


Jesse - Feb 01, 2005 6:27:19 am PST #2785 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Some kid on the Price Is Right just bid 420. Har.

...I mean, I'm busy learning about financial management.


Lee - Feb 01, 2005 6:27:54 am PST #2786 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

in all sorts of Murphy's Law-iness, today my office heat is mysteriously not on. I am comfortable right now, but fear that by this afternoon I will be chilly. cannot win for losing.

My office is the same way. It is usually too warm, so that I want to nap all day, but every once in a while it gets frigid for a few days. It's a running joke in the department to go check the weather in my office.


sarameg - Feb 01, 2005 6:29:34 am PST #2787 of 10002

I can picture msbelle skipping. With pigtails.

So Jesse, you practicing your guess-the-price-without-looking-at-the-pricetag skills?


bon bon - Feb 01, 2005 6:34:57 am PST #2788 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Can you share the link? When I was in Montreal, as many women would workshop as men, but a teeny percentage of them ever made it past an audition. They were so tense and self-conscious, in comparison to most of the guys. The class clown tradition just didn't seem have been one they prepared with.

[link] I buy some of the premise: so many more men are comically talented or employed in the comedy business because there's more incentive for them to be funny adolescents. But much about it irritates me. Starting first with the fact that it is painfully unfunny.

And my experience is the same as yours with improv. For every brilliant female improvisor-- Amy Poehler is one of the best, Kristen Schaal will be huge (she's in the CNN commercial with Wolf Blitzer and Paula Zahn), Tina Fey, Amy Sedaris-- there are ten filling out improv group quotas and sucking the air out of every scene they're in.


Jesse - Feb 01, 2005 6:37:32 am PST #2789 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So Jesse, you practicing your guess-the-price-without-looking-at-the-pricetag skills?

Har. Nah, I turned it off and am reading my textbook.


Theodosia - Feb 01, 2005 6:38:35 am PST #2790 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I wonder how much it is that there's a narrower range of expression that is considered 'funny' in women - in other words, it's the audience side of the equation that's out of joint.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2005 6:40:16 am PST #2791 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know an assload of women funnier than that guy, that's for sure.

I do think it's about incentive, mainly. Funny was so not an issue at my all girls school. There was absolutely nothing to be won by it, either from teachers or other students.

The male freshmen that showed up to try out in their first year were either nerds trying to overcome life's stage frights or class clowns who wanted a bigger stage. The women? Some fell into the nerd category, and most of the rest were looking for attention, but not willing to take risks (or look ugly) to get them. Which hamstrung them right there.

That having been said, if a woman got into On The Spot during my tenure, she was basically assured every gig in the world because a) rarity and b) she was typically at least the second best in the entire troupe. It's the middle level that was missing -- women seemed to be incandescent, or not that good. No journeymen, no "pretty goods."

We were lucky to rarely have to come up against quota requirements.


Daisy Jane - Feb 01, 2005 6:42:00 am PST #2792 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Young girls who want attention have other weapons — they can scream, they can cry, they can grow breasts. They can be heartbreakingly beautiful and call me a nerd for imitating the Coneheads all the time. Learning to be funny would seem, for girls, to be more of a last resort.

That up there? Is the problem. That's how we can get attention. Scream, cry or be attractive. Perhaps it's not that being funny is a last resort, but not a generally (meaning societally) valued characteristic in women. Which is, er... funny because most guys I know, once they get past their crushes on the heartbreakingly beautiful women who make fun of them, would rather have the girl who chuckles whenever someone says "I didn't expect..." and makes fun with them.


Jessica - Feb 01, 2005 6:43:21 am PST #2793 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Kristen Schaal will be huge

That whole crop of Mee-ow-ers is doing fantastically. (SNL a few weeks ago was practically a reunion show -- Seth in the cast, Liz in the monologue, and Ryan as Prince Harry during Weekend Update.) Schaal wasn't even close to being the funniest in her cast, but she's got a quirky look and voice that'll take her really far.

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