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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Scrappy - Jan 28, 2005 9:46:27 am PST #1721 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

It annoys me deeply how they have to inject dozens of far out tragedies into an EMERGENCY ROOM.

Well, but it's a soap. A soap masquerading as a medical show, but a soap nonetheless. Just be glad no one's evil twin has showed up.


§ ita § - Jan 28, 2005 9:49:32 am PST #1722 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They never let things impact that actually would

Uhh, Abby was kidnapped two eps ago, and there was definitely impact of at least an episode.

But it's TV -- cops don't get that many interesting cases all back to back, Vegas crime scenes can't be that fascinating.

I've been to real live ERs. They were pretty boring, and I probably wouldn't watch the show.


Trudy Booth - Jan 28, 2005 9:51:54 am PST #1723 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Well, but it's a soap. A soap masquerading as a medical show, but a soap nonetheless. Just be glad no one's evil twin has showed up.

Don't give them any ideas!

The best episodes are never the stunts, you know? Bradley Whitford's wife dies unexpectely and everyone cries for a YEAR. Abby's bi-polar mother shows up and its gripping. Chen decides to euthanize her father... all reasonable things. Kellie Martin's character is stabbed to death, however, and after Dr. Romano sheds a character-deepening tear we never hear about her again.


§ ita § - Jan 28, 2005 9:53:27 am PST #1724 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Trudy - details from this season should be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Jan 28, 2005 9:54:40 am PST #1725 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Uhh, Abby
was kidnapped
two eps ago, and there was definitely impact of at least an episode.

but only on ABBY. Nobody else is afraid to go to the ambulance bay alone, no mention of "security around here". Nothin.


§ ita § - Jan 28, 2005 9:56:00 am PST #1726 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

no mention of "security around here"

They already did that. Remember the additional presence and the metal detector?


Trudy Booth - Jan 28, 2005 9:57:18 am PST #1727 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Trudy - details from this season should be whitefonted.

whole season? got it

They already did that. Remember the additional presence and the metal detector?
Not particularly effective, now was it? Probably warrants a follow-up chat.


§ ita § - Jan 28, 2005 10:00:18 am PST #1728 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not particularly effective, now was it?

Yes, and Buffy should have used guns and supersoakers of holy water. If you don't compromise reality, you don't get umpteen years of must see TV and TV that syndicates extra-profitability.

Is there a show out there that you'd hold up as an example (on broadcast TV) of how to do it right?


Trudy Booth - Jan 28, 2005 10:03:18 am PST #1729 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Yes, and Buffy should have used guns and supersoakers of holy water. If you don't compromise reality, you don't get umpteen years of must see TV and TV that syndicates extra-profitability.

My argument is that the best episodes ARE the realistic ones. No one got an Emmy for dropping a chopper on Romano.

Right now? I'm pretty sure this is the only drama I'm currently watching. Sopranos does it in spades... finds the drama in the "little" as well as the big. So does Six Feet Under. Both series are set in similarly epic environments.


P.M. Marc - Jan 28, 2005 10:06:16 am PST #1730 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I've been to real live ERs. They were pretty boring, and I probably wouldn't watch the show.

This is true. Your normal ER would not make for good viewing. (The only ER story my mother has that's at all interesting is about the night Errol Flynn croaked and wound up at her hospital. And that was kind of low-comedy snark about his barely-legal-if-that-woman, I fear.)

Hell, even as a patient, they're kind of dull.

Also, the doctors aren't nearly as pretty, and their lives not nearly as entangled.