no mention of "security around here"
They already did that. Remember the additional presence and the metal detector?
Spike: I'm not a monster. Xander: Yes! You are a monster. Vampires are monsters! They make monster movies about them! Spike: Well, yeah. Got me there.
'Dirty Girls'
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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
§ ita § - Jan 28, 2005 9:56:00 am PST #1726 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Trudy Booth - Jan 28, 2005 9:57:18 am PST #1727 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Trudy - details from this season should be whitefonted.
whole season? got it
They already did that. Remember the additional presence and the metal detector?Not particularly effective, now was it? Probably warrants a follow-up chat.
§ ita § - Jan 28, 2005 10:00:18 am PST #1728 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Not particularly effective, now was it?
Yes, and Buffy should have used guns and supersoakers of holy water. If you don't compromise reality, you don't get umpteen years of must see TV and TV that syndicates extra-profitability.
Is there a show out there that you'd hold up as an example (on broadcast TV) of how to do it right?
Trudy Booth - Jan 28, 2005 10:03:18 am PST #1729 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Yes, and Buffy should have used guns and supersoakers of holy water. If you don't compromise reality, you don't get umpteen years of must see TV and TV that syndicates extra-profitability.
My argument is that the best episodes ARE the realistic ones. No one got an Emmy for dropping a chopper on Romano.
Right now? I'm pretty sure this is the only drama I'm currently watching. Sopranos does it in spades... finds the drama in the "little" as well as the big. So does Six Feet Under. Both series are set in similarly epic environments.
P.M. Marc - Jan 28, 2005 10:06:16 am PST #1730 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I've been to real live ERs. They were pretty boring, and I probably wouldn't watch the show.
This is true. Your normal ER would not make for good viewing. (The only ER story my mother has that's at all interesting is about the night Errol Flynn croaked and wound up at her hospital. And that was kind of low-comedy snark about his barely-legal-if-that-woman, I fear.)
Hell, even as a patient, they're kind of dull.
Also, the doctors aren't nearly as pretty, and their lives not nearly as entangled.
Scrappy - Jan 28, 2005 10:06:31 am PST #1731 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
ER, when it's working right, is like a Dickens novel--lots of great characters interacting with each other in surprising ways, moments of broad humor, moments which break your heart, huge coincidences, true details which are beautifully observed, big plot holes, great storytelling. The bad stuff is sort part of the good stuff in the fabric of the piece for me, if you see what I mean. The show has had whole bad seasons, but when it's cooking, it's wonderful.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 28, 2005 10:06:39 am PST #1732 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I don't know whether to laugh or to be appalled.
I'm wondering if I should buy one and bring it to the New Orleans f2f where skilled voodoo practitioners will be within walking distance.
I cooked a buffalo burger at the office today. V. tasty, but the smell of the meat cooking will keep me from ever buying more patties to grill at home.
§ ita § - Jan 28, 2005 10:08:32 am PST #1733 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I guess I don't get your point.
Is the episode where Kellie is killed too unrealistic? And that's why it didn't get good buzz? Or is the lack of sufficient continued reaction to it what meant it didn't get the Emmy?
Hell and High Water (the episode with Ross and the storm drain) got huge ratings, Emmy noms, and was a big old stunt.
I don't see the consistency of your angle.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 28, 2005 10:11:46 am PST #1734 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I've been in an ER and seen things get pretty dramatic. When my dad was in the hospital for his first seizures (we were on vacation in Eureka Springs), I was in the ER waiting room when they brought in a guy whose arm had been ripped off by a thresher. His buddy in bloodstained overalls ran in having hysterics and very noisily barfed as soon as he got the restroom door open.
Scrappy - Jan 28, 2005 10:13:31 am PST #1735 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
According to my SiL, who is an ER nurse, the main feature of life in the ER is lots and lots of bodliy fluids where they shouldn't be.