Looks like civilization finally caught up with us.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Jan 27, 2005 9:21:10 am PST #1374 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

The people who really care about social status still read the society pages. That includes people who not a part of it. But no, it is not as pervasive in our culture as it once was - what with the tv and mass media constant entertainment at our finger tips. our culture is much more micro-topic hyper-sensitive (if that makes sense). For example, people swarming here and going apeshit when Joss posts and then a much larger portion of the population not giving a rat's ass who he even is.


Lyra Jane - Jan 27, 2005 9:21:51 am PST #1375 of 10002
Up with the sun

Of course, there's still the economic aspect of that kind of opportunity. If you can afford to take an unpaid internship during the summer, you gain networking contacts.

This is very true, and it's somethiing I wish college professors and advisors took more time in explaining to middle-class students -- e.g., it will cost you a few thousand dollars to work for free for a summer (depending on where you live, etc.), but the benefits to your future career will exceed that cost.


Gus - Jan 27, 2005 9:22:15 am PST #1376 of 10002
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

OK, this is becoming tiresome for some.

Tom had the meta. Tom always has the meta.

Jessica, your rate card... Oh, nevermind.


Nutty - Jan 27, 2005 9:24:47 am PST #1377 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Lyra Jane, FWIW, my One Of Many Rightish Colleges recently instituted a policy of offering to fund any student's unpaid summer internship, because so many of the choicest ones are unpaid. They did this after I graduated, of course.

our culture is much more micro-topic hyper-sensitive (if that makes sense). For example, people swarming here and going apeshit when Joss posts and then a much larger portion of the population not giving a rat's ass who he even is.

Good point, and nice parallel. We're much more niche-y than we were even in the 50s.


Lyra Jane - Jan 27, 2005 9:25:05 am PST #1378 of 10002
Up with the sun

But dating or marrying with an eye to profit = whoring in my book.

Agreed, but there seems to be a societal agreement that this is not the case. (E.G., anyone think Melania would be with Donald Trump if he didn't have a gazillion dollars? Yet we're still hearing about their "fairy-tale" wedding. Well, it is medieval, in a way.)

But no, it is not as pervasive in our culture as it once was - what with the tv and mass media constant entertainment at our finger tips. our culture is much more micro-topic hyper-sensitive (if that makes sense).

Exactly. Today's Scarlett Johanssen/Gwen Stefani/Fergie from the Roots = yesterday's Brooke Astor.


DXMachina - Jan 27, 2005 9:25:41 am PST #1379 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I will also add that I buy DVDs rather than rent, because I tend not to watch them in a timely manner. If I joined Netflix, I might watch one DVD per month, so for me, buying is cheaper.


Maria - Jan 27, 2005 9:26:52 am PST #1380 of 10002
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Perhaps these were millionaires without enough money to be an entree, but I saw people try and whore (physically and/or business-wise) themselves out to the same group, and it never worked.

It may be different for different social circles. I see a good amount in DC. The money is secondary to the power. Nevertheless, it all comes back to the symbiotic relationship. Each side has to receive a benefit. It's entirely possible that those who tried to whore themselves out provided no incentive to be taken up on the offer.


Trudy Booth - Jan 27, 2005 9:27:14 am PST #1381 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I was thinking more along the lines of dating/marrying

See comment about whoring -- if there was anyone in the group I actually wanted to date or marry, sure I would have. But dating or marrying with an eye to profit = whoring in my book.

or putting your MBA to use.

Never had one of those, myself.

That's pretty much my point. You weren't trying to get in.


msbelle - Jan 27, 2005 9:27:27 am PST #1382 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

FYI Society Balls .


§ ita § - Jan 27, 2005 9:28:10 am PST #1383 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

there seems to be a societal agreement that this is not the case

Really? I thought it was pretty skeptically apparent he was marrying eye candy and she was marrying money. And that was societally endorsed, but I've never heard anything about how in love they are.