Right, what's a little sweater sniffing between sworn enemies?

Riley ,'Sleeper'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


§ ita § - Apr 14, 2007 4:40:02 pm PDT #9616 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Don't go to any trouble, though, Allyson.


sarameg - Apr 14, 2007 4:43:03 pm PDT #9617 of 10001

Zenkitty made me snort rudely.


Allyson - Apr 14, 2007 4:52:10 pm PDT #9618 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

That was the only part that pinged me. Kicked me right in the teeth.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 14, 2007 4:54:40 pm PDT #9619 of 10001
What is even happening?

Well yeah, because the writer took what was a wise crack and made it sound like you were trying to make money off the campaign. After all the money you've raised for fandom charity campaigns, I hope you can just remember how stupid that person looks to anyone who knows the truth.


Liese S. - Apr 14, 2007 5:11:32 pm PDT #9620 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Making money off the campaign, or making money off the book? Odds are you're going to get flack from the fandom in general, and your visibility will likely result in some scrutiny. Stuff will get twisted. But I wouldn't worry about it.


libkitty - Apr 15, 2007 8:41:43 pm PDT #9621 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Not arguing that the fans brought Serenity to screen, but...

Universal had Serenity in production long before the Firefly DVDs even came out.

Huh? Did they had it in production before there was an official announcement that it was greenlit?


Kevin - Apr 16, 2007 1:33:15 am PDT #9622 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Pretty much. They had the script being written long before, but the picture went to their marketing department way back in 2003. Serenitymovie.com was regged before Firefly was even out on DeeVeeDee. When it was officially greenlit, they already had all the budgets etc set, which was because they'd spent donkies workin' on it.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 16, 2007 4:30:10 am PDT #9623 of 10001
What is even happening?

Making money off the campaign, or making money off the book? Odds are you're going to get flack from the fandom in general, and your visibility will likely result in some scrutiny. Stuff will get twisted. But I wouldn't worry about it.

The section I was referring to states:

Beatrice writes, "if the studio is choosing to use the campaign we built to save the show as the backbone to its marketing, shouldn't we get a cut of the profits?" Done the Impossible, on the other hand, are donating proceeds from the sale of the video to "Joss Whedon's favorite charity, Equality Now," and Browncoats have repeatedly held screenings of Serenity to benefit the charity and get the word out about the movie.

Here's the whole piece: [link]


brenda m - Apr 16, 2007 5:50:48 am PDT #9624 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The juxtaposition does make it sound a bit like Allyson's bitching about not getting a cut, rather than using it to make a point. Either the writer totally didn't get it, or it's a pretty manipulative bit of insinuation.


Allyson - Apr 16, 2007 5:53:00 am PDT #9625 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm going with manipulative insinuation. It's too much of a dig.