Angel's lame. His hair goes straight up, and he's bloody stupid!

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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


JohnSweden - Apr 04, 2007 8:49:23 am PDT #9597 of 10001
I can't even.

I've heard amn't as a kid growing up in Scotland. Pretty heavily frowned upon, but how you sound is a pretty big deal over there. I wonder if (meta issues aside) Fireflyverse English is consciously "americanized" to indicate something about one's status/situation, that is, is there anything political about it? Is it a reaction to the melding of the cultures (ie. Sino-American Alliance) or something else?


libkitty - Apr 04, 2007 9:10:05 am PDT #9598 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I seem to pick up whatever it is I'm watching/listening to at the time.

I do this too. When I was a kid, I spent some time in Europe, mostly England and Norway. When I came back, I started at a new school. Apparently, my new teacher loved me because I sounded so "respectful." This was totally based on the accent I picked up, not on anything wonderful that I said.

I find myself using a lot of Firefly speak, but I have a lot of friends who are fans, since I was quite the evangelizer for a while, so mostly I use the terms when speaking with them. When a Fireflyism slips out in regular conversation with others, it usually seems to go unnoticed.


Ailleann - Apr 04, 2007 9:14:08 am PDT #9599 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I think people have a tendency to just let it go if they hear a phrase they don't recognize, but get the context clues. When it's close to another word/phrase, like "gorram," they feel the need to validate the pronunciation.


libkitty - Apr 04, 2007 9:20:07 am PDT #9600 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

That sounds right Ailleann. I have a friend who goes to town with all sorts of pop culture references, but I tend to sprinkle them lightly, so don't get quite as many raised eyebrows. Not as many knowing laughs either, but that's how it goes.


brenda m - Apr 04, 2007 4:23:30 pm PDT #9601 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I use such a mishmash of buffista, Buffy, and Firefly lingo it's a wonder anyone can understand me.

ION, catching up on BSG tonight. OMG Badger! (Slightly different accent, still totally slimy. Love.)


IAmNotReallyASpring - Apr 07, 2007 4:39:38 pm PDT #9602 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

ION, catching up on BSG tonight. OMG Badger! (Slightly different accent, still totally slimy. Love.)

His accent on BSG was a remarkably authentic Irish accent; it was from north Dublin. Which makes it kind of a shame he used it on BSG.


sumi - Apr 07, 2007 4:41:42 pm PDT #9603 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Was it? He has family in Ireland, doesn't he?

There was a hilarious video blog on Scifi's BSG website - there is something about his voice that makes everything he says sound conspiratorial.


IAmNotReallyASpring - Apr 07, 2007 4:53:44 pm PDT #9604 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

Yeah, it's the same accent Colin Farrell and, say, the characters in The Commitments have. My brother and I were really taken with how good it was because it's so... regional.


Allyson - Apr 14, 2007 6:25:30 am PDT #9605 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Someone wrote an essay about how the fans saved Firefly, and I think I'm the cynical bad guy.

[link]

Okay, so I am cynical.

Just a little.

Okay, a lot.

BUT I AM ALSO RIGHT.

shakes fist

GET OFFA MY LAWN.


ColinG - Apr 14, 2007 6:45:52 am PDT #9606 of 10001

I personally think Allyson is just absolutely pragmatic on this point (in a very insightful way). Universal could have given 2 cents over pretty much anything the fans did, except buy DVD's in such large quantities that they saw an opportunity to make some money by making a movie.

Some People also seem to believe that "Star Trek" came back to the big screen because of conventions and fan belief (the write in campaign did help at the time it was on the air, but it was a very different day). It had more to do with the ratings the original show got in syndication, and the fact that "Star Wars" was a box office smash. The companies that make these shows are in it for the money, and there's far more to be made by having my grandma (or other non sci-fi person) sit and watch Star Trek 4 than by making "Fan Favorite" movies. They want them to be popular.