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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


beekaytee - Dec 14, 2006 10:05:31 pm PST #9291 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Some folks just always want to "win" no matter what, or be the "main character" or whatever, or somehow think the kewlness of their character will impress people.

So much this. Now, there ARE some really interesting characters in this group, but none so far have been cut throat. In fact, the 'other' ship loosely associated with us has moles, killers and the GM routinely knocks characters off for effect. Sooo not my game.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 15, 2006 3:20:07 am PST #9292 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Some news was posted in the Minearverse that might be of some small interest to Firefly fans: Kristen "The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax" Dec 15, 2006 12:41:04 am PST


Kalshane - Dec 15, 2006 7:58:58 am PST #9293 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

So much this. Now, there ARE some really interesting characters in this group, but none so far have been cut throat. In fact, the 'other' ship loosely associated with us has moles, killers and the GM routinely knocks characters off for effect. Sooo not my game.

I'm not even necessarily talking about cut-throat characters, though those are a problem too, but more of people who want their character to be the RPG-equivalent of a Mary Sue. They can never fail, they're always right, their character is the unique and powerful protagonist and everyone else is merely playing their side-kicks. If the campaign were a novel, the story would be about them. Those are the sort of players I'm talking about, though cut-throaters are an extension of that, in a way, as their fun involves screwing over the other players.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 15, 2006 9:50:17 am PST #9294 of 10001
What is even happening?

This comment at the Booster Forums, made by an AdmiralJedi, wins [link]

This just in. Steps on how to receive your refund:

1) Send E-mail to Denise at orbistra@yahoo.com with your:
- name
- forum handle
- ticket type
- date of birth
- astrological sign
- favorite color
- favorite BDH
- favorite BDH's favorite color
- the meal you ordered
- your badge number
- the meals ordered by people represented by badges within a +/- 5 badge range of yours (please see the seating chart for guidance (please use a magnifying glass for guidance with the seating chart) )
- a haiku picturing the woe that was caused to you by the last minute cancellation of Flan [remember to use nature-oriented imagery or it's not a true haiku]

2) Denise will then respond to you with a post office box that you must then send a S.A.S.E. (Self-Addressed Stamped Envelope) to containing a handwritten (and notarized) letter requesting your refund. Please include the following:
- photocopy of your driver's license
- photocopy of your birth certificate
- photocopy of your last 3 electric bills as proof of residency
- photocopy of your right hand (for fingerprinting purposes)

3) Your SASE will be returned to you with form: BE220768-c "Request For Return Of Funds Held For Sold-out Conference Which Was Then Cancelled [Despite Being Sold-out] Due To Lack of Funds"

Please fill out this form in triplicate, get it signed, notarized, signed by the notary, witnessed, notarized by the witnessed, signed by the witness, witness by the signee, notarized by the signee, and triplicated by the notary's signer.

4) Re-email Denise with all of the information in step #1 (please be accurate or it will slow down your refund) to request the Post Office box for mailing the BE220678-c to. A small convenience fee of $15 will be added for the handling of your refund request.

Your refund should be issed within 180 to 240 days of receiving the form. Thank you very much, and please see the online store for Booster Bash II tickets!

[this has been a highly sarcastic post and in no way represents the opinions or statements of BE]


Polter-Cow - Dec 15, 2006 3:30:42 pm PST #9295 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Personal Statement from Denise Adams. Be sure to read the comments too, as she's replying in there.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 15, 2006 4:58:30 pm PST #9296 of 10001
What is even happening?

Vicki has posted a personal statement/reply to Denise's statment, back at the BE board. I'm going to copy it here, because that board is not reliable.

vicki
Captain
Posts: 3875
Location:
12/15/2006 5:26 PM

Blah. blah. blah. and this is MY personal statement.

I'm not afraid to say I AM sorry.
I've *been* saying I'm sorry. I've been saying it. Because I am.
Rick and I have invested over $80,000 in two years of our PERSONAL money in Booster Entertainment. Fact. Documented. Denise keeps saying she is "sick of hearing about my contributions ad nausem" and sick of hearing how "I want some of it back" Duh. I don't- but Rick does. He took money out of his 401K for this business. Okay. He lost it. We resigned ourselves to that some time ago. We've offered the business to Denise several times now at her request.
She has offered no plan to take it and make it right, just a bunch of crap as outlined above.
I keep asking- "what do you want to do about refunds?"
"what do you want to tell people"
"we need to make an explanation"
"are we filing bankruptcy? Are you keeping the business?" nothing but more and more and more CRAP like you see posted above.
Of course I need to go to BACK to work, I am crazy in debt for this business. Denise isn't. Dave isn't.
I almost entirely funded Angel Booster Bash and have the cancelled checks to prove it. Want me to post em?
I wrote an $8,000 personal check to the Hilton for Flan I, want me to post it?
Rick paid Bruce Campbell personally- want me to post that check?
Yes- we had disasters this year. Yes we should have cancelled BEB and BES. We didn't. Hindsight is 20/20.
We should have done a lot of things differently, but we didn't. I should have had a different partner, but I didn't.
I didn't take any company money. I also don't have the business address, nor do I do the banking. Apparently, I just do the work and supply the financing.

I was led to believe we were going to get an SBA loan to finance ALL of 2006-realizing that two of the three conventions were selling poorly. Not until less than one week before Flan did I find out just how truly horrible my partner's credit is. It had nothing to do with "inventory". If I had been told this information 6 months prior when I first brought up the fact that we needed a big loan to get through 2006, I would have found some other way. I would have done it alone. No big. It was ignored and put off and lied about until it was too late. No excuse. I'm not making excuses. I should have just done it myself.

I have been waiting all this time since Flan because I was under the impression Denise actually *wanted* the company and wanted to re-pay everyone. I was prepared to hand over our shares and do whatever to make that happen.

I don't see that as being the case here. I have to figure out what to do at this point.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 15, 2006 5:14:27 pm PST #9297 of 10001
What is even happening?

Do the two posts read to anyone else like a longer way of playing the blame game?

The convention fell through, because even though I work my ass off, and had wonderful ideas for saving it, my partner didn't live up to her end of the bargain.

That's exactly what I was going to say, well that, and that you smell like poo. Because you totally do.


Kalshane - Dec 15, 2006 5:18:49 pm PST #9298 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Do the two posts read to anyone else like a longer way of playing the blame game?

Pretty much. Sounds like none of them have a clue what they're doing and both they and a ton of fans are out of a ridiculous amount of money because of it.


Monique - Dec 15, 2006 5:18:51 pm PST #9299 of 10001

Vicki just posted and said her husband told her she was acting like a 12-year-old, so she intends to delete that post and asks that no one reposts it.

Of course, it's already spread most everywhere.

I also don't blame the Flan II 500 if they're even more angry now.


Kalshane - Dec 15, 2006 5:19:40 pm PST #9300 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I also don't blame the Flan II 500 if they're even more angry now.

No kidding.