Can't you ever get your mind out of the hellmouth?

Buffy ,'Touched'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Sheryl - Dec 11, 2006 12:20:13 pm PST #9264 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

All of this reminds me why there's only one media con I attend(if my schedule allows). It's run by fans, like the book-oriented and filk cons I go to. Still, the people who pulled Flan B together are made of awesome, as are the actors and such who came.


Tamara - Dec 11, 2006 12:20:42 pm PST #9265 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

No one would dare, Allyson.


Kevin - Dec 11, 2006 12:27:29 pm PST #9266 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Dunno Tamara, there's a convention company I know of that's known to deal in crazy..


Kalshane - Dec 11, 2006 12:50:58 pm PST #9267 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

How many people are attending your cons, Kalshane? It looks like one of BE's promises was a good star:fan ration, which ups the per guest cost and therefore asking price considerably.

Well, the small con is that. A small con. The Guests of Honor tend to smaller-name Sci-Fi or fantasy authors, NASA scientists and folks like Dr. Demento. Maybe a few hundred people in attendance at most.

The big con has attendees in the 10,000+ range over the course of the weekend.

I understand what the BE people are offering is different, but it still feels like a lot of money and I guess I'd feel weird essential paying someone X amount of dollars to guarantee they'll actually talk to me for 15 minutes, or whatever.


Monique - Dec 11, 2006 1:12:05 pm PST #9268 of 10001

No one would dare, Allyson.

I would. If I wasn't so lazy.


Consuela - Dec 11, 2006 3:33:24 pm PST #9269 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Jensen who? You're going to tell me they're on Veronica Mars now, aren't you? IMDB time..

Supernatural, actually. And hot is in no way off the mark. Guh.


§ ita § - Dec 11, 2006 9:35:16 pm PST #9270 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, the small con is that. A small con. The Guests of Honor tend to smaller-name Sci-Fi or fantasy authors

Which is the difference, I guess, between your small con and BE's -- they're talking small attendance, big names. And of people whose faces are front line, primarily.

It is weird, I guess (never having done something like that myself), but it sure seems there's money in it if you manage it right.


sumi - Dec 12, 2006 4:21:05 am PST #9271 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Scifi is doing a FF mini-marathon today. I caught the first 25 minutes of "The Train Job" before I had to leave for work.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 12, 2006 4:51:36 am PST #9272 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Catching up after a weekend in Maine and I am well and truly full of awe at how so many disparate elements pulled together to save the fans from the ginormous clusterfuck that BE managed to cause. "Wow!" doesn't even come close to expressing how shiny I feel about this. "Bless!" comes pretty close, though.


Nutty - Dec 12, 2006 4:56:30 am PST #9273 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

It is weird, I guess (never having done something like that myself), but it sure seems there's money in it if you manage it right.

Right. I'm beginning to realize that SF-lit cons and media cons are really different entities -- SF lit is half industry caucus and half community. The boundaries between fans and "stars" are very permeable, over the long term. Also, I've never heard of an SF lit con that wouldn't immediately plow any profits back into the next con. (For that matter, every year people buy "non-attending" memberships in cons, essentially giving the con money just to make sure it survives.)

Not to posit SF lit cons as unable to have horrifying disasters (there was a humdinger of a one that got cons kicked out of Boston hotels for a long time), but generally speaking, the horrifying disasters are stupidity, disorganization, and people getting out of hand; the profit motive for disaster is absent.

Although, I will say, the fangirling that Neil Gaiman gets, he probably should (and could) charge for autographs. (I don't think he does.)