Do you see any goats around? No, because I sacrificed them.

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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Kevin - Dec 10, 2006 9:27:29 pm PST #9230 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I'm going to fucking explode over than Booster website. Seriously.

On Friday, when the shit was really hitting the fan, Vicki posted a very public resignation letter. Saying her lawyers were resigning her from the company. All manner of shit went on, and now that the weekend has been a success beyond wildest wet dreams, they've come back online -- with Vicki back.

I'm So. Pissed. Off.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 11, 2006 1:32:54 am PST #9231 of 10001
What is even happening?

Now, see, that post would be deleted, Hec.
Oh, now see that wants to be COMMed, but it actually is not funny without the context, and posting the context makes it too long, and I don't want to COMM Be Excrement's words, anyhow.
Allyson's offerin' to buy me a ticket for Christmas to one of Booster's events next year now that the site's back up. Which one should I choose? The $869 Neptune Noir pass, or the $859 Booster Bash 2 pass?

Monique, why choose? Allyson is an author. All authors are rich.

I'm going to fucking explode over than Booster website. Seriously.
Oh, yeah. And, um...INCONVENIENCE?

They're...I can't really think of a word bad enough right now, but that's what they are.


Monique - Dec 11, 2006 4:04:51 am PST #9232 of 10001

Monique, why choose? Allyson is an author. All authors are rich.

Actually, I'm delighted to report that another friend stepped up and offered to buy me a LIFETIME BOOSTER PASS! Yes, that's right, for just $5,000 of someone else's money, I'll be able to party with the stars for the rest of my LIFE!

I promise to post photos after every future Booster event.


DCJensen - Dec 11, 2006 4:12:40 am PST #9233 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I promise to post photos after every future Booster event.

One could still do it. If you are including court appearances....lynchings...


Kevin - Dec 11, 2006 5:01:09 am PST #9234 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Saw this on Livejournal, considered making it my tag;

jossify: to harden or to become tough as bone in the face of disappointment, specifically cancellations of any kind.


§ ita § - Dec 11, 2006 7:21:01 am PST #9235 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hmm. I had the BE forum page open in another tab, and now it's a big old Server Error in '/' application and I can't get to their front page either.


Monique - Dec 11, 2006 7:24:28 am PST #9236 of 10001

Yeah. Y'know, they may not be able to talk about Flan refunds yet. Or lifetime pass refunds, or Neptune Noir refunds, or Booster Bash 2 refunds. Maybe they don't realize they need to consider refunds for the latter three.

But you'd think they'd realize their site's ... got issues. Let's just put it that way.


Kevin - Dec 11, 2006 7:51:01 am PST #9237 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Boosters website has never been able to handle more than 5 visitors at once. And I wish I was being snarky there: I'm not. It's the worst website I've ever seen in terms of reliability.

Here's why I'm pissed off with Boosters: On Tuesday last week, they added somebody else to their business files and tried to obtain more credit (loans). Now, to be clear, they didn't have the money to run Flan initially, they said they obtained financing, and then right up until the last minute they've openly admitted they were apply and getting MORE loans.

Here's the thing: say they start refunding Flan holders. Great. Then there's all the other people... I can't see them ever putting on another convention with fandom people. So, how do they refund the other people when they couldn't afford to run Flan, let alone all the people who've got Booster Bash tickets, Neptune Noir, Life Time passes in advance?

They can't. But they've just got loans. So if they fold, the creditors (loan people) get first dibs on any remaining assets. And then any money left will go to the actual fans.

Or, put simply: I'm pretty certain Booster are going to bite the dust, and there's going to be fuck all left for anybody involved.


Liese S. - Dec 11, 2006 8:11:19 am PST #9238 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

You know, I understand the recent timeline of events. But how did they get into trouble enough to need the loans to begin with? Was it just bad planning; the cons cost more than the fan revenue brought in? Or were they in the hole from previous events, and what the fans paid months ago went to pay off that?

Given their late cancellation date, I imagine they still owe the venue, event insurance, that sort of thing. The talent showed up for free, so I'm guessing although they probably owe appearance fees still, those won't get collected on.

It's just an odd sequence of events. I can't imagine that cancelling that late really saved them that much money. Where were they going to get the cash to pay off their loans? From tickets to future events? Where were they going to get the cash to run those events? Wonder what their profit margin was.


Kevin - Dec 11, 2006 8:18:34 am PST #9239 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

This is just speculation, however I'm willing to put my name to it: they have been loosing money since the first Flanvention.

The last few events they ran had a really top quality line of guests - example: Bruce Campbell - but they got extremely low attendance numbers. Many of the guests they were getting were really heavy hitters, so you're looking at well over $20,000 per guest in those cases. The last con they ran - which was a disaster in terms of paying customers - had *20* guests. After that con, Vicki - the person who seems to have resumed the website - posted on her Livejournal this: "Despite poor ticket sales, Booster Entertainment continues with it's history of never cancelling a guest".