I kissed him, and I told him that I loved him. And I killed him.

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Monique - Dec 10, 2006 5:36:26 am PST #9176 of 10001

Does anyone know of a centralized discussion and planning spot for the ripped off?

Regan, the woman I believe you're talking to, started an LJ community -- BE Victims. I imagine it'll be busier come Monday, once focus turns from salvaging the weekend to making the BE folks pay.


Kevin - Dec 10, 2006 5:49:13 am PST #9177 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

There's also my own Flanvention Helpline - [link]

Although it's a bit out of date with regards to refund information. I'm going to revisit that today for when people get back. The people outside of their credit card's refund limit (in terms of days) are in real trouble and legal action is going to be required I think, but that has to be handled very carefully due to the nature of how Boosters is set up. I don't know what's going to happen on that score - any suggestions welcome.

Also Topic!Cindy, yes, I agree on all counts regarding the actors. Jonathan Woodward really went out of his way - I think he actually paid for things this weekend himself to make them happen.


Allyson - Dec 10, 2006 5:53:15 am PST #9178 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Claire Kramer deserves flowers and a full house every night at her place. I really want to write about it all, but edits. So many edits. Aiyee.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 10, 2006 5:53:50 am PST #9179 of 10001
What is even happening?

Regan, the woman I believe you're talking to, started an LJ community -- BE Victims. I imagine it'll be busier come Monday, once focus turns from salvaging the weekend to making the BE folks pay.
Heh! Thanks, Monique. I read about that LJ community yesterday, and was in the process of linking Regan to it, when I checked back here one last time. I hope those who lost money can gather in one central spot. I don't know how much of a chance they have, but working together is their best chance.


Allyson - Dec 10, 2006 5:57:18 am PST #9180 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

One thing on their side is the amount of publicity they're receiving.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 10, 2006 5:57:42 am PST #9181 of 10001
What is even happening?

Claire Kramer deserves flowers and a full house every night at her place. I really want to write about it all, but edits. So many edits. Aiyee.

Oh, I'm so glad you mentioned her name. I've been foot-in-mouthy more than usual lately, so I didn't want to do more than link, but I didn't want to play the whole Glorymort game. Seriously. What she did was just the best. Her bar isn't even set to open for another week.

Although it's a bit out of date with regards to refund information. I'm going to revisit that today for when people get back. The people outside of their credit card's refund limit (in terms of days) are in real trouble and legal action is going to be required I think, but that has to be handled very carefully due to the nature of how Boosters is set up. I don't know what's going to happen on that score - any suggestions welcome.

Kevin, even though Regan already runs the LJ community, I linked your Helpline blog, and recommended that if she didn't have a Whedonesque account, she contact Simon and ask if she could get one to publicize the BE Victims lj there, and that she hit the Ff boards, too.

Also Topic!Cindy, yes, I agree on all counts regarding the actors. Jonathan Woodward really went out of his way - I think he actually paid for things this weekend himself to make them happen.

I know. *sigh* Like I needed to think he was any more adorable.


Kevin - Dec 10, 2006 6:03:38 am PST #9182 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

The only reason I went for the Buffy-cast-member thing was because I didn't know if they wanted to be credited, is all. There's a few people who asked not to be named when it was all kicking off on Thursday.


Allyson - Dec 10, 2006 6:08:00 am PST #9183 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Now that it's done we should see to it that they get as much publicity as possible for their business. They basically hosted a cast party and took in 200+ people with little notice. It was a generous thing to do and they deserve something wonderful.


Kevin - Dec 10, 2006 6:11:19 am PST #9184 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Allyson - agreed. I'm going to try and slashdot the story and mention the restraunt name and all that joy.

[link]


Topic!Cindy - Dec 10, 2006 6:12:29 am PST #9185 of 10001
What is even happening?

The only reason I went for the Buffy-cast-member thing was because I didn't know if they wanted to be credited, is all. There's a few people who asked not to be named when it was all kicking off on Thursday.

Oh, I understood that. It was just already out there. I didn't want you taking the trouble to conceal a secret that wasn't.

Now that it's done we should see to it that they get as much publicity as possible for their business. They basically hosted a cast party and took in 200+ people with little notice. It was a generous thing to do and they deserve something wonderful.
Yep! I read the main reason for the secrecy was to guard against crashers (which was very wise, and a good point to consider, given how much stress the planners were under).