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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Simon - Dec 08, 2006 12:35:17 am PST #9079 of 10001

I hope Simon saved a copy of the page, somewhere, because this is an issue of fraud at this point, not that fans will ever be able to collect from Booster Events, itself.

I have a copy of what was said but I don't know if it will prove anything apart from the organisers by that stage were running around like headless chickens and didn't have a clue what was happening.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 08, 2006 12:43:50 am PST #9080 of 10001
What is even happening?

I don't know what it will prove either, but I think it ought to be preserved, in case it can help in some way, and just for people's... I don't know how to phrase it, but when something this big happens in fandom, it leaves a scar for a long time. Sometimes, people just want to pick at the scar, but sometimes, the fans need to look the thing right in the face, in order to move past it. It's part of the fandom's history. When the whole weekend has passed and there's no chance for more confusion from the post, I hope you restore it, if you can.


Simon - Dec 08, 2006 12:54:36 am PST #9081 of 10001

Well the post does in theory belong to the poster who blogged it. If he/she is willing to have it made available then I'll see.

This has been an utter fiasco created by people who fell for their own press and hype, made some woeful and dubious decisions in terms of hosting cons for other shows and who bottled it when it came to cancelling Flan 2.


Kevin - Dec 08, 2006 4:09:01 am PST #9082 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Simon summaries it up well.

The problem - well, one of - with the Whedonesque post was it wasn't directly written by the company owners. It was relayed via phone from somebody claiming to be a company owner (except legally he wasn't) to somebody who relayed it in the hotel lobby which then got relayed on Whedonesque. And, the person from Booster who had called (Dave) isn't even an owner of the company, so has absolutely 0 financial or legal responsibility with the company. I tried pointing this out at the time. Fact is, yesterday, there was zero responsibility or visibility from anybody associated with Booster Entertainment.


Kevin - Dec 08, 2006 4:11:07 am PST #9083 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

By the way, the Browncoat Backup Bash plans are fluid. The event might have to move outside of the hotel to west hollywood for various reasons.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 08, 2006 1:06:32 pm PST #9084 of 10001
What is even happening?

Thanks, Simon and Kevin.

Narrator, are you around? And okay?


Kevin - Dec 08, 2006 2:09:50 pm PST #9085 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Guys, does anybody know how far Hollywood Blvd is from the Hilton that Flanvention is at?


tiggy - Dec 08, 2006 2:16:55 pm PST #9086 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

google is telling me it's about 7 miles. someone in SoCal might be able to give a definite answer.


Aims - Dec 08, 2006 2:20:11 pm PST #9087 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

7 miles is about right.

However, timewise, it can take anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour to get there.


libkitty - Dec 08, 2006 2:25:47 pm PST #9088 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Not to excuse any of what BE did, which was horrible, but it is starting to look like attendees might get a really great Browncoat experience, perhaps even extraordinary. I hope so, and really appreciate the efforts made by folks like AB, Allyson, and a certain writer.