Handsome brooding vampire guy has to swoop in all sensitive mouth and overhanging forehead. How 'bout leaving some scraps for the homely-looking fellows who don't turn evil when they get some?

Doyle ,'Life of the Party'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Gris - Nov 14, 2006 2:48:45 pm PST #9009 of 10001
Hey. New board.

I think the faulty logic is in "if you counted all those people pickin' something up."

Why should that be expected? I would probably buy it, but I'm sure my parents, for example, probably wouldn't. They didn't really like Serenity, for one thing.

The real question is WTF is somebody making B5 Direct-To-DVDs for? I expect them to fail miserably.


Zenkitty - Nov 14, 2006 3:42:50 pm PST #9010 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I'm interested to see how the B5 D2DvD works out. It's a good test case.


Strega - Nov 14, 2006 4:15:07 pm PST #9011 of 10001

Warner Brothers just launched a D2DVD business, which will focus pretty heavily on developing franchises they already own. Their stated goal is to keep the production budget under $5 million. The B5 D2DVD "anthology" stories each focus on one of the major characters, which keeps the casting budget down.

B5 DVDs have made a lot of money. It was syndicated widely -- and internationally. Cha-ching. The print-on-demand scriptbooks appear to be selling at a nice clip, and AFAIK without publicity outside fandom. After a decade, I suspect that they've got a pretty good idea of how many people will spend $20 for a DVD they've never seen.


Simon - Nov 14, 2006 9:27:54 pm PST #9012 of 10001

Their stated goal is to keep the production budget under $5 million.

Under 5 million? I wonder if that's the figure 20th Century Fox quoted to Joss for his Buffyverse DVD movies. He did say that they didn't happen due to money issues.


evil jimi - Nov 15, 2006 3:39:20 am PST #9013 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

I'll be buying the B5 D2DVD.


Ailleann - Nov 16, 2006 6:27:21 am PST #9014 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Not actually related to all our talk of fair use, but.... I was trying to look for actual licenced Firefly/Serenity merchandise, and I can't seem to find any. Would anyone have a suggestion of where I should look?


Kevin - Nov 16, 2006 10:24:03 am PST #9015 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Ailleann: [link]

Babylon 5 made WB a fortune on DVD. How do I know this? JMS once posted the sales figures online - which, by the way, is not a way to make friends.

It'll be interesting to see if they do online distribution on iTunes with the B5 thing. If they get the word out, I imagine they'll make a mint from it. I just checked and JMS said the B5 DVDs made over $500m for Warners.


Ailleann - Nov 16, 2006 10:25:28 am PST #9016 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Thanks for the link, Kevin. Does Universal not have an online swag store, like for instance New Line does?


Kevin - Nov 16, 2006 10:29:04 am PST #9017 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Nah. Well, they do, but it's got two things on it - Serenity DVD and HD-DVD. Which is, of course, a bit crap.


Ailleann - Nov 16, 2006 10:49:21 am PST #9018 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

That means if I find the type of item I'm looking for, I'll have to buy it from a non-official site. Shame, that.