Ouch.

Vonnie, they will probably eventually breakeven with DVD sales, TV revenue, and licensing, but it will most likely never be really profitable.

I gotta quit talking about this show, because I'm starting to sound like that woman with the monkey baby and the Star Wars fetish.

hahahaha!

I think seeing the UK Office first spoiled me for the US version. From what I saw it certainly wasn't bad, but it wasn't as, I dunno... excruciating.

I didn't like the US version the first time I tried it. I'd seen the UK version and it was so perfectly dry, I couldn't see why they'd bother to make it here, with an American cast. Then Scott decided he wanted to give it a go. I caught a few more S2 episodes, and was utterly hooked. Now they're completely different shows for me.

Uhhh, topic. Nathan Fillion was in the movie Slither, which was directed by James Gunn, who's married to Jenna Fischer, who plays Pam in The Office! See? I was sort of on topic.

More sorta on-topic. The character Gunn, on Angel, was named for James Gunn (who wrote Scooby Doo, starring SMG) and his brother Sean (who has appeared in at least two episodes of A:ts). David Denman is Roy on The Office (and has also appeared on Bones), and played Skip on A:ts, who was revealed to be working to advance Jasmine's plans. Jasmine, of course, was played by Gina Torres—Zoe, in Firefly and Serenity.

(David Denman is also going to be in Fan Boys with Kristen Bell, who plays the title character on Veronica Mars, which is neither here nor there, but there were are.)

Roy was SKIP?!!

OK, my mind is blown.

Also, Sean Gunn is the actor who plays Kirk in Gilmore Girls, right? When was he on AtS? He's got a distinct-enough face that I feel like I should remember, but I have no idea.

Says IMDB:

- She (2000) TV Episode .... Mars

- Hero (1999) TV Episode .... Lucas

Roy was SKIP?!!

I know, right? when i figured it out, i was shocked.

Hee, I love how I'm still getting converts, in a ripple effect kind of way.

I just got a text message from an ex-boss of mine, who I intoduced to Firefly a few years ago, about another guy I usd to work with.

"It has taken a while, but I finally converted Ronnie to the Way. He sat down with the boxset intending to watch an hour, and ended up watching eight episodes in a row."

I even knew Dave Denman played Roy, and Dave Denman played Skip, but never put the two things together. I just knew the name "Dave Denman" sounded familar (in article about Roy) until tiggy made her lj entry.

Warning: boring post about Serenity.

Skip it. Really.

Universal got 45% of the domestic gross of Serenity - about $11.5m. Internationally, UIP released it, who (and this bit isn't an official figure, but I gather it's the case) take about another 10% (so 55% total). So, internationally, $7.33m.

In total, that's $18.83m, from a production budget of $40m. The production budget obviously has domestic and international marketing costs on top, along with distribution (which will be around $7m). Looking at around $57m.

So, all in all, at the box office Serenity took about a third of it's overall budget.

Now, there's DVD sales on top of that, however the DVD also had marketing and production costs.

An average movie makes about 60% of it's overall money -- apparently (that's a commonly quoted figure) -- from DVD sales.

Tamara is spot on about DVD sales, licensing (games, books, TV airings etc) -- once it's totalled on, it'll break even in the next few years.

The thing is, the reason Garfield is getting a sequel is this -- it make a shit load of money. Probably $400m+ profit for the studio (with DVD sales, Garfield toy licensing etc). Does anybody know anybody who liked it? I don't. Did people see it? Yep. 'cause, you know, it's Garfield.

Serenity isn't a total bomb for Universal, it got good reviews and such, and you know - no overall money loss. It could have done much worse.