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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Kevin - Apr 27, 2006 12:10:39 pm PDT #8340 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

The weirdness I find in the situation is this:

The catalyst is the idea from the Serenity marketing that fans made Serenity happen.

So, lots of people think they can get a sequel made via the Interweb.

Which is understandable.

So if you're under that thinking, do you then go and shit on the people who (supposedly*) made the situation in the first place.

(*) I don't mean supposedly in a mocking way of anybody involved in FF: Immediate Assistance. (I actually had a great deal of respect for how that was ran). I just supposedly in the marketing sense.


§ ita § - Apr 27, 2006 12:24:26 pm PDT #8341 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Which is understandable.

No, no it's not. I totally don't get anything but the wishing. Not even hope. I wish I could have scads more Firefly. But...reality. And this isn't something we can change without becoming the people who fund and greenlight.


Kevin - Apr 27, 2006 12:26:19 pm PDT #8342 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

ita, you misunderstand me (or, rather, I fail to explain) - it's understandable they believe the marketing hype, because the DVDs _say_ the fans caused the movie to happen.

I know that more Firefly won't happen. At all.


§ ita § - Apr 27, 2006 12:29:55 pm PDT #8343 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Even if I believed that the fans made the movie happen, I can't see believing they can do it again, now. We had our chance, when the movie came out. Didn't work. Bye bye.


WindSparrow - Apr 27, 2006 12:42:45 pm PDT #8344 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Lola, I'm loving your tagline:

Madame, what you said to her was "squid", not "good morning".

I shall therefore institute a (personal) policy of saying, "Squid!" in greeting. Anyone who wishes to join me, please feel squid to.

Squid, Ailleann! I think I have seen you de-lurk on occasion.

Which is understandable.

No, no it's not. I totally don't get anything but the wishing.

ita, Kevin, I think what's happening here, is that some Firefly fans have been watching wayyyyyyy too much other tv, and are now trying to go all House, MD on the possibility of Serenity sequels. They refuse to give up, preferring instead to try whatever wild shit comes to their freaky minds and think they can get away with being stubborn just because being right (and if they can just be stubborn enough, they will be) will justify them in the end.

Except that I doubt any fan of Firefly can possibly be as nastily brilliant as House.

And also that this is a grave exageration of the situation, mostly said because I feel like obsessing on House right now.


Allyson - Apr 27, 2006 12:47:18 pm PDT #8345 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I don't know why this stuff still bothers me, but it does. I get all twitchy. Makes no sense.


Tamara - Apr 27, 2006 12:58:50 pm PDT #8346 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

But, Allyson, they left you out of it. This time.


Allyson - Apr 27, 2006 1:06:06 pm PDT #8347 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think that's because I stayed out of it.

It's the entire argument that makes me crazy.


Kevin - Apr 27, 2006 1:35:52 pm PDT #8348 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Well, The One True B!x (I still don't get that nickname) has a point, I think. His thing is about, you know, charity. Which, if your aim is to make people take note, is an interesting side effect. Mass buying DVDs, I don't really see working - if the fan base wasn't big enough to open it at theatres, the online fan forum base won't be big enough to make a dent in online profits, and I can't see the fact it happening getting acknowledged outside the fan base.

The fact the people who collected Paypal money the other month are in this months Wired print magazine is curious.

I think sticking my head in the sand is going to be the best route to sanity.


Ailleann - Apr 27, 2006 3:53:45 pm PDT #8349 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

waves tentacle at WindSparrow