I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time.

Ethan Rayne ,'Potential'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Ailleann - Apr 27, 2006 4:05:02 am PDT #8336 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

More than one lurker has registered in order to subscribe to threads.

raises hand

Also, I supported in email.


Kevin - Apr 27, 2006 4:36:10 am PDT #8337 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Thanks for the lube, Jars.

Apparently there's going to be a spin off from BSG called Caprica later in the year. Zoic will be busy.


Lola Walser - Apr 27, 2006 6:59:34 am PDT #8338 of 10001
Madame, what you said to her was "squid", not "good morning".

Anything flavored "hello" is shiny. HEllO.

My big Firefly love: the spaceship. In fact, when I first heard of Joss Whedon's new series, the title actually, and that it's "about" a spaceship, that alone made me feel all warm and tingly. I love fireflies! I love spaceships! I was ready to love to death the spaceship that was a firefly!

And, boy, it was BEAUTIFUL.

My favorite episode is "Out of gas", and favorite scenes the very last ones, when Mal falls in love with his ship before our eyes. The only time I cried, too. He's dying and saying goodbye to everybody, and then SHE's the last thing he sees... I want a relationship like that.


Tamara - Apr 27, 2006 8:23:01 am PDT #8339 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Kevin, if this kind of thing didn't happen at least once a year I would be very very shocked. It's always nice to see my name dragged through the mud.


Kevin - Apr 27, 2006 12:10:39 pm PDT #8340 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

The weirdness I find in the situation is this:

The catalyst is the idea from the Serenity marketing that fans made Serenity happen.

So, lots of people think they can get a sequel made via the Interweb.

Which is understandable.

So if you're under that thinking, do you then go and shit on the people who (supposedly*) made the situation in the first place.

(*) I don't mean supposedly in a mocking way of anybody involved in FF: Immediate Assistance. (I actually had a great deal of respect for how that was ran). I just supposedly in the marketing sense.


§ ita § - Apr 27, 2006 12:24:26 pm PDT #8341 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Which is understandable.

No, no it's not. I totally don't get anything but the wishing. Not even hope. I wish I could have scads more Firefly. But...reality. And this isn't something we can change without becoming the people who fund and greenlight.


Kevin - Apr 27, 2006 12:26:19 pm PDT #8342 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

ita, you misunderstand me (or, rather, I fail to explain) - it's understandable they believe the marketing hype, because the DVDs _say_ the fans caused the movie to happen.

I know that more Firefly won't happen. At all.


§ ita § - Apr 27, 2006 12:29:55 pm PDT #8343 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Even if I believed that the fans made the movie happen, I can't see believing they can do it again, now. We had our chance, when the movie came out. Didn't work. Bye bye.


WindSparrow - Apr 27, 2006 12:42:45 pm PDT #8344 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Lola, I'm loving your tagline:

Madame, what you said to her was "squid", not "good morning".

I shall therefore institute a (personal) policy of saying, "Squid!" in greeting. Anyone who wishes to join me, please feel squid to.

Squid, Ailleann! I think I have seen you de-lurk on occasion.

Which is understandable.

No, no it's not. I totally don't get anything but the wishing.

ita, Kevin, I think what's happening here, is that some Firefly fans have been watching wayyyyyyy too much other tv, and are now trying to go all House, MD on the possibility of Serenity sequels. They refuse to give up, preferring instead to try whatever wild shit comes to their freaky minds and think they can get away with being stubborn just because being right (and if they can just be stubborn enough, they will be) will justify them in the end.

Except that I doubt any fan of Firefly can possibly be as nastily brilliant as House.

And also that this is a grave exageration of the situation, mostly said because I feel like obsessing on House right now.


Allyson - Apr 27, 2006 12:47:18 pm PDT #8345 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I don't know why this stuff still bothers me, but it does. I get all twitchy. Makes no sense.