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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


§ ita § - Mar 11, 2006 6:16:54 pm PST #8089 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know diddly about pay rates--I was just remembering the reports that he found it too exhausting so he didn't want another series.

I thought it plausible, considering it was an action series running a longer number of eps.

Didn't even think about money.


Kevin - Mar 11, 2006 6:21:31 pm PST #8090 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Well, give an actor enough money, and they'll keep doing something regardless, generally. If the pay is shit it's a bit "Why should I bother?".


§ ita § - Mar 11, 2006 6:27:27 pm PST #8091 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I assume that actors are just people, and for some of them there just isn't enough money to do some things.


Kevin - Mar 11, 2006 6:34:12 pm PST #8092 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Actors are, of course, people. They are also people who work for money, and in many cases it's for a lot of it. Which is fine. You'll never see an actor say in an interview "Nah, I wouldn't do that again! The pay was shite!" - more like some kind of junket thing of "The work was really tiring". Well, I say never - it happens, but it's rare.

Personally, I thought Chris did an excellent job, and if they'd offered him sack fulls to return I'd be happy and gleeful.


KernelM - Mar 11, 2006 6:41:02 pm PST #8093 of 10001
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

I remember hearing he said he left because he didn't want to be typecast. Who knows.


tiggy - Mar 11, 2006 6:50:40 pm PST #8094 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

that's the reason i heard too, KernelM. to that i say "whatever". at least you're getting work. who cares if you're typecast?


Kevin - Mar 11, 2006 7:21:14 pm PST #8095 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I believe every "Doctor" who has taken the role for the past 20 years hasn't worked since, and a lot of them do conventions each year now. Which is obviously a concern. The UK is a pretty insular market - if you're hot you do a short stint on a popular BBC or ITV show, and if you're not you last on them forever (Corry, Eastenders) or end up on The Bill or Hollyoaks.

The few people who have 'broken out' of the UK market (to much pay) have been those who've done something popular on the BBC, and then quit, and done things in the US. Which, as it happens, Chris is doing at the mo.


Strega - Mar 11, 2006 7:42:14 pm PST #8096 of 10001

There was an article somewhere that implied that Eccleston didn't get along with someone in the production. Not like they were having screaming matches, but that he wasn't exactly thrilled to go to work.

I believe every "Doctor" who has taken the role for the past 20 years hasn't worked since,

Well the show wasn't on for the past decade. If you mean the 20 years prior to 1996, McCoy and Colin Baker haven't done a whole lot on TV, but Davison and Tom Baker certainly have.


Kevin - Mar 12, 2006 4:29:31 am PST #8097 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I stand corrected, Strega.


DCJensen - Mar 12, 2006 6:13:54 am PST #8098 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

You would be surprised at how low some of the actors who are recognizable are paid. Most actors are lucky if they can make a modest living. Getting a series or movie is a good way to make the rent. The big names make the bucks, but those jobs are the cream of the crop. It's a very volitile career, and it's only slightly above, and sometimes below being a temp worker for Kelly services. Like temp work, it's the time between jobs that'll kill your soul, sometimes.

Even after the first two admittedly low-budget Evil Dead movies, Bruce Campbell worked as a security guard. In his book "If Chins Could Kill" he wrote about the day a co worker finally recognized him.

Good book, btw, I recommend it.

Look at me, talking as if I actually kept up with the acting thing. I did look into the prospects when I was in college, and I haven't heard anthing here or from my reading that says it had changed in any revolutionary way.

Did I miss anything? I'm sure the working actors on the board could verify most of this, or call me pretentious and point and laugh.

ETA: On the other hand, pay scale and all? One gets to act for a career. How cool is that?