Jayne: 'Cause I don't know these folks. Don't much care to. Mal: They're whores. Jayne: I'm in.

'Heart Of Gold'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Ailleann - Mar 10, 2006 1:59:52 pm PST #8083 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Just watched Out of Gas. Man, I miss this show.


Kevin - Mar 11, 2006 2:56:29 pm PST #8084 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Firefly would tend to be much longer than an English series.. We're normally about 6 episodes a series. If we're lucky we get two series of something in total, so 12 episodes.


DCJensen - Mar 11, 2006 3:04:13 pm PST #8085 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

At least the new Dr Who incarnations are 13 ep series/season.


Kevin - Mar 11, 2006 5:05:00 pm PST #8086 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Totally. Technically "Hex" also runs at around 13 episodes a season, too: but it's shit ("The British Buffy"). Two Pints of Lager - which I once wrote a script for: laugh now - also runs about 10 episodes a season, and is going on 6 seasons now. In fact, arguably Two Pints is the UK's longest running series of recent years, and BBC Three's highest rated. Which, I think, tells us something about the UK...


§ ita § - Mar 11, 2006 6:03:15 pm PST #8087 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Didn't the thirteen episodes of Who tucker Eccleston right out? High price to pay.


Kevin - Mar 11, 2006 6:09:13 pm PST #8088 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Well, the BBC had something like £1.6m for the 13 episode series of Doc Who, about half of which went on VFX. They had two main leads, so I'd imagine Eccleston probably got virtually nothing for it.


§ ita § - Mar 11, 2006 6:16:54 pm PST #8089 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know diddly about pay rates--I was just remembering the reports that he found it too exhausting so he didn't want another series.

I thought it plausible, considering it was an action series running a longer number of eps.

Didn't even think about money.


Kevin - Mar 11, 2006 6:21:31 pm PST #8090 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Well, give an actor enough money, and they'll keep doing something regardless, generally. If the pay is shit it's a bit "Why should I bother?".


§ ita § - Mar 11, 2006 6:27:27 pm PST #8091 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I assume that actors are just people, and for some of them there just isn't enough money to do some things.


Kevin - Mar 11, 2006 6:34:12 pm PST #8092 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Actors are, of course, people. They are also people who work for money, and in many cases it's for a lot of it. Which is fine. You'll never see an actor say in an interview "Nah, I wouldn't do that again! The pay was shite!" - more like some kind of junket thing of "The work was really tiring". Well, I say never - it happens, but it's rare.

Personally, I thought Chris did an excellent job, and if they'd offered him sack fulls to return I'd be happy and gleeful.