Now, this would be the perfect time for a swear word.

Kaylee ,'Jaynestown'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


P.M. Marc - Oct 20, 2005 4:54:08 pm PDT #6726 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Third "fuff".

I kind of dig the how-you-view-fandom thoughts. For the most part, I think of it how amych does, but when using it about specific texts, I get more precise. Kind of.

I consider myself a part of any fandom where I can muster up enough energy to comment on a regular basis about episodes *and* read or write fic. When I can no longer be bothered with either, I no longer include myself in the fandom. Firefly, I think of myself as a fan of, but not a part of fandom for, despite watching from the beginning, transcribing The Train Job for a script resource, and hosting the Seattle Serenity Postcard Party. Up until the movie, however, I felt no real need for fic, and, despite being on FF lists early on, never read anything much beyond shrift's zombie fic.

So my bar for self-inclusion is low, but not on the ground. And certainly revolves around fic production or consumption.

It's also murky. Despite regularly writing Shallow Alias Thoughts and having one Alias/AtS crossover drabble under my belt, I feel like less of a member of Alias fandom than I do, say Due South fandom, where I haven't written a word, but I'm more invested in the source text.


libkitty - Oct 20, 2005 4:56:11 pm PDT #6727 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I like BtVS and Angel. I even got cable for them once I had a real job. But it took Firefly to get me involved with fandom. While I still think that Firefly was perhaps the best show ever and the movie is great, and while I fear many of my friends think I've gone over the edge, some of the utter devotion I've read about recently makes me want to sit folks down and say, "It's a show."


P.M. Marc - Oct 20, 2005 4:58:24 pm PDT #6728 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

My utter devotion occasionally makes me sit myself down and say, "It's a blank. "

Occasionally. But then I realize I kind of enjoy getting worked up about crap that doesn't matter one whit, and get over getting over myself.

Sad, but true.


Allyson - Oct 20, 2005 4:59:53 pm PDT #6729 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

But then I realize I kind of enjoy getting worked up about crap that doesn't matter one whit, and get over getting over myself.

Plei is me.

I'm unbelievably flattered.


amych - Oct 20, 2005 5:01:13 pm PDT #6730 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

sits in the secret wank-lovers' corner


Dana - Oct 20, 2005 5:01:19 pm PDT #6731 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Fandom is no fun without perspective. If you can't laugh at yourself, then it's kind of hard to laugh at other people.


JohnSweden - Oct 20, 2005 5:03:54 pm PDT #6732 of 10001
I can't even.

Universal posted some nice Serenity premiere pics on their site here:

[link]

I'm a fan, I'm in the fandom. Buffy was the first time I really let go and allowed myself to love a show wholeheartedly, and didn't reserve a big chunk of myself for snerking from the sidelines. I'd been pretty fannish about shows early (ST:TNG - helped run cons; X-Files early on before the immense suckage began), but Buffy changed things (two tape machines, just in case, transcribing eps, watch n post, etc.).


bon bon - Oct 20, 2005 5:06:42 pm PDT #6733 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I feel like fandom generally coalesces around co-projects like fic and SOS campaigning. Where do the BNFs usually come in?


Consuela - Oct 20, 2005 5:27:04 pm PDT #6734 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Fic, moderating a mailing list/community, fanart production, or really good analysis. But they have to be, um, involved. Generally, anyway, although I can think of one or two BNFs who are solely BNFs for fic production, without any other involvement in the fandom.


Gandalfe - Oct 20, 2005 5:31:04 pm PDT #6735 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Fake blood and a cricket bat!

My 10 year old son, named Shannon, is going to be Shannon of the Dead.