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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Zenkitty - Oct 20, 2005 2:48:49 pm PDT #6710 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I don't suppose anyone's buying that my parents were transcendental hippies and Zenkitty is my real name?

My real name is very very common. To use it as my online nickname would, rather than asserting my identity, more likely bland myself out of anyone's notice.

I've been called some version of my online nicknames in RL by people who've met me online. It pretty soon starts feeling like my real name. Though considering I've changed my name once and also gone by a stage name for years, maybe I just have a looser association of myself with my name(s) than most people do.

And now I want chocolate cake. Dammit.


Kevin - Oct 20, 2005 2:51:27 pm PDT #6711 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Kernel, they asked to be warned in future to try to balance the load a bit. It's a reasonable request, but for a professional film site I think it is a little bit strange.

To be clear, also, I edited my post from Universal to Spec Ops Media, who ran the site for Universal - I believe it was Spec Ops who asked. But let's not even get into the management of that site.. I think that's going to be a chapter of a book I never write.


Consuela - Oct 20, 2005 3:37:58 pm PDT #6712 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Not to pile on, but to get back to a point I found interesting -- online personas are personas, but they vary in the ways the individuals own them. I've never even considered putting someone's screen name (I was going to say 'pseud', but that would negate my point) in quotation marks. Meara is Meara, Shrift is Shrift, and Msbelle is Msbelle.

Those are the people I interact with, not the (to me) hypothetical flesh-and-blood individuals on the other side of their monitors. Putting their names in quotes would negate the reality of their personas, and, to me, imply they were lying about who they were.

It's a weird thing, the internet.

Also? I'm not in Firefly fandom. I am fannish, and I loved Firefly, and I've posted about it and read some fic and saw the movie three times. That doesn't make me a member of the fandom, and it sure as hell doesn't make me a Browncoat.

I am or was a member of 3 fandoms, and Joss didn't write any of them.


§ ita § - Oct 20, 2005 3:44:11 pm PDT #6713 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Where do you draw the fandom line, Suela? Writing fic? Organising stuff?


Kevin - Oct 20, 2005 3:46:49 pm PDT #6714 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Consuela - I still define you as part of the fandom as a whole, in my world.

I'm not using quote marks to suggest somebody is lying about who they are, it's just my way of communicating that's what they call themselves online. I do it all the time in formal things, and it often sterms from the fact I write a lot of emails in an official way with online names in quotes ('"LardArse" wrote they know ...'). I'm sure LardArse is a real person, but in a viewed capacity I don't want to drop LardArse in the middle of a sentence in an email read by marketing people, for example.

That said, in this case I was completely wrong at any rate as Nilly is Nillys' name, and I didn't know that.

Mind you, I've picked up many bad habits from media things anyway - I've started to refer to film names in ALL CAPS now, and I even called Nathan "the talent" the other week. It wouldn't be so bad if I actually worked in the industry or had any professional interest in it, but I don't, so I need to get out of these sanity breaking habits and return to normality (which is apparently saying lol a lot, and doing lots of emotions and such).


Consuela - Oct 20, 2005 4:01:01 pm PDT #6715 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Where do you draw the fandom line, Suela? Writing fic? Organising stuff?

Hmmm. Not sure. I think joining mailing lists and writing fic. Writing up formal episode comments, not just chatting about the show. Getting involved for the content, not just for social reasons.

I didn't feel like I was in Stargate fandom until long after I'd started writing fic for it. And despite being a Buffista for far longer than I was an X-Phile, I still don't feel like a member of the Buffy fandom. I even love the show, and I'm a fan of the show, and I'm a Buffista, but I'm not in the Buffy fandom.

I'm not sure where that line is.


Zenkitty - Oct 20, 2005 4:12:59 pm PDT #6716 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I think for me being in the fandom of a show, as opposed to being a fan, is when I've gotten involved with the other people watching the show, apart from my interest in the show itself. For instance, for me, writing and sharing fanfic is being a fan, and arguing very seriously with people about whether it's canon and whether my characterization is wrong is being in the fandom. When I was hanging out on the OB and started wrestling with some folks over differences in opinion about Inara's characterization, I realized I was getting more into the fandom than I was comfortable with. It stops being fun when it becomes Very Serious and Important.


DCJensen - Oct 20, 2005 4:14:24 pm PDT #6717 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Wow. Have I been a part of a kerfluffle?


Cashmere - Oct 20, 2005 4:21:22 pm PDT #6718 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

If so, it's kind of tiny. Maybe just a fuffle?


Zenkitty - Oct 20, 2005 4:25:20 pm PDT #6719 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

A kerf?