Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Consuela - Oct 20, 2005 4:01:01 pm PDT #6715 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Where do you draw the fandom line, Suela? Writing fic? Organising stuff?

Hmmm. Not sure. I think joining mailing lists and writing fic. Writing up formal episode comments, not just chatting about the show. Getting involved for the content, not just for social reasons.

I didn't feel like I was in Stargate fandom until long after I'd started writing fic for it. And despite being a Buffista for far longer than I was an X-Phile, I still don't feel like a member of the Buffy fandom. I even love the show, and I'm a fan of the show, and I'm a Buffista, but I'm not in the Buffy fandom.

I'm not sure where that line is.


Zenkitty - Oct 20, 2005 4:12:59 pm PDT #6716 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I think for me being in the fandom of a show, as opposed to being a fan, is when I've gotten involved with the other people watching the show, apart from my interest in the show itself. For instance, for me, writing and sharing fanfic is being a fan, and arguing very seriously with people about whether it's canon and whether my characterization is wrong is being in the fandom. When I was hanging out on the OB and started wrestling with some folks over differences in opinion about Inara's characterization, I realized I was getting more into the fandom than I was comfortable with. It stops being fun when it becomes Very Serious and Important.


DCJensen - Oct 20, 2005 4:14:24 pm PDT #6717 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Wow. Have I been a part of a kerfluffle?


Cashmere - Oct 20, 2005 4:21:22 pm PDT #6718 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

If so, it's kind of tiny. Maybe just a fuffle?


Zenkitty - Oct 20, 2005 4:25:20 pm PDT #6719 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

A kerf?


amych - Oct 20, 2005 4:30:48 pm PDT #6720 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

It stops being fun when it becomes Very Serious and Important.

And for some of us, that's where the fun starts.

Seriously, I'm intrigued by your implication that being in (a) fandom is something negative, as opposed to being a fan of the thing -- and also by suela's very high bar for self-inclusion; not in any "I'm right and you suck" way in either case, but because the whole definition of fandom is so different from mine. I use the word almost exclusively in the broad and multifandom sense -- fandom at large, as a culture, a group, a set of activities, maybe even an identity. I've gone long stretches in the last few years when I haven't had an active text that I'm even bothering to follow, let alone that I've written or argued about, but I've never been out of fandom; that's more a way of seeing the world than anything else.

Which isn't to say that there aren't fandoms for particular texts; I'm not at all into some of them, bitter about others, newly in love with one or two, and I can certainly use and recognize the term as an identifier: but I'm not in HP fandom is the same as I'm not that into HP. And it's never my first definition of the word "fandom".

eta: I vote "fuff"


bon bon - Oct 20, 2005 4:36:52 pm PDT #6721 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Well, I view every single person here (including myself) as part of that fandom. Of course, people here can generally spell, however.

I wouldn't agree that posting on a bulletin board about anything makes one part of fandom.


libkitty - Oct 20, 2005 4:37:37 pm PDT #6722 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I vote "fuff"

Second.


Kristen - Oct 20, 2005 4:45:41 pm PDT #6723 of 10001

I consider myself footloose and fandom free.

My last fandom was NSYNC. Before that it was BtVS and Angel. Before that I was without a fandom.

Huh. I burned out real fast on the whole fandom thing, didn't I?


shrift - Oct 20, 2005 4:52:39 pm PDT #6724 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I know people who consider fandom their fandom.