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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Kate P. - Oct 19, 2005 7:41:21 pm PDT #6614 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Nilly, you have no idea how thrilling that was for me to read. I'm SO glad you were able to see it!

There was a line that the Operative said to Mal, about saving the world, but not for him, that he is a monster, but he's trying to save the world for others. And in a way it's just like Frodo, who saved his world, but couldn't stay living in it.

Ha--I said almost the same thing, earlier in this thread.

Stories about characters making a choice always get to me (being such an important part of my own faith). Just to name a couple of recent examples: it's one of the things I love most about the "Harry Potter" series, one of the things I loved most about LotR.

I always feel a little silly admitting this, but I think what I get from stories like LotR and Firefly and Buffy is something similar to what many people get from their faith. If I weren't about to go to bed, I would expand on this idea a little more, but it has a lot to do with the choices that people make, like you said, and how they deal with the consequences of those choices, and how--in ways both big and small--their choices have influenced my own. (This is also why I tend to bristle when stories that mean so much to me are dismissed with variations on the "oh, fantasy is all about good vs. evil, it's so boring" theme.) (And suddenly I'm longing for a "What Would Captain Tightpants Do?" t-shirt.)

Anyway, I should have been in bed hours ago, but I just wanted to chime in and say thanks once more, Nilly, for letting us peek inside your head and share your joy. Good night!


Beverly - Oct 19, 2005 8:22:55 pm PDT #6615 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Bless you, Nilly. You've added back a little shine to my tarnished view of Serenity. I'm so glad you got to see it, and so happy that you let us see it through your eyes.

I'm often awed by the fact that I got to discuss Firefly with you, a little, in Deb's kitchen. I treasure that memory.


P.M. Marc - Oct 19, 2005 8:35:53 pm PDT #6616 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It was probably one of the hardest things he's ever had to do in his life. And he did it. He saved the crew. He saved his ship. He saved his wife. He was proud of himself. That man who knew he wasn't a warrior and in most places would be shot down first. That man who was willing to live openly with his weaknesses, and wasn't afraid to love such a strong powerful woman. He was probably the most fragile of them all, along with Kaylee - good-natured, looking for the non-violent solution. And still, he chose to live there, on that ship, facing those dangers, with those people who in many cases didn't even follow his jokes all the way. And he saved them.

Nilly, you made me sniffle. Bless you, darling one.


Lee - Oct 19, 2005 8:40:26 pm PDT #6617 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Yes, bless you, Nilly.


manzo - Oct 19, 2005 11:38:36 pm PDT #6618 of 10001
If we're really lucky, they'll do it in that order...

From boxofficemojo.com:

Serenity displayed some relatively strong holds. The sci-fi thriller had a $2 million weekend internationally, led by the U.K.'s $868,664–a drop of 39 percent for a $3.3 million total there. Russia was the picture's sole opening, grossing a respectable $711,201 from 232 screens. Next weekend, Serenity lands in France and Spain.

Looks like I need to find me a spare hour for the Nilly. Really girl, you gotta to learn to say what you think, instead of holding back on us. ;)


Jars - Oct 19, 2005 11:50:03 pm PDT #6619 of 10001

Aw crap! Nilly review and I have to go to class. Will digest it properly later.


billytea - Oct 20, 2005 12:13:00 am PDT #6620 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Nilly! I saw the movie just last weekend. I love your review, it feels so very much like hearing you talk about it.


Kevin - Oct 20, 2005 12:25:32 am PDT #6621 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Nilly. Dude. Seriously, put that on a website or a blog and get it put on Whedonesque.

It's probably the most in depth, insightful review of the movie I've actually seen - and given it's been in general release for 3 weeks that's saying something.

Regarding Nathan Fillion's acting and Mal, Nilly, I just want to stress one point: I agree with Nathan's assertation that he isn't like Mal at all. Because he's so NOT Mal. So, apparently, he really can act.


DCJensen - Oct 20, 2005 4:13:47 am PDT #6622 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Kevin, it'll be on the Nilly review site soon. Her writing up of each FF episode is there.

nilly.shriftweb.org


Kevin - Oct 20, 2005 5:07:50 am PDT #6623 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Ta, Daniel. Whedonesque'ed.