Well, we may not have parted on the best of terms. I realize certain words were exchanged. Also, certain... bullets. But that's air through the engine. It's past. We're business people.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 08, 2005 5:16:14 pm PST #653 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Not gonna argue with you on that one, Matt. But there are plenty of people over there that keep him honest and make him work real hard at defending his wingnut views. Somehow they all stay civil.

Hell, the man seems to worship Joss, who seems pretty thoroughly blue state to me. As others have said, he'll probably be having some interesting conversations with Peter Coyote on the show soon to be formerly known as THE INSIDE. I get the feeling he's closer to a Clint Eastwood wingnut than a Mel Gibson.

But I've also avoided his postings at the OB, so I could very well be talking out of my ass. Everything I've read about what he's said about his involvement with FIREFLY and the fans has been ridiculously sweet.


Typo Boy - Feb 08, 2005 7:01:34 pm PST #654 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

My impression is he is a nice guy whose politics we happen to strongly disagree with. That happens.


reequeen - Feb 08, 2005 7:42:45 pm PST #655 of 10001
"It's got to be the hair, Cotton. It's beautiful! Feathered and lethal. You just don't see it nowadays." Pepper Brooks - Dodgeball

What I get from AB's posts over at the OB is that he's pretty much a 9-11 Republican, and flailing desperately to justify the ideological tectonic shift.

Just my take on the situation, anyway. Kind of like poor, misguided, Dennis Miller, but without the vocabulary. It even happened to me for a few months, I'm embarrassed to acknowledge.


WildDemon Cornelius - Feb 08, 2005 10:09:50 pm PST #656 of 10001
Take your fingers off it, don't you dare touch it, you know it don't belong to you, to you...

Just my take on the situation, anyway. Kind of like poor, misguided, Dennis Miller, but without the vocabulary. It even happened to me for a few months, I'm embarrassed to acknowledge.

It happened to me too, and I'm Canadian, so I can certainly see how that might happen to an American and last longer. I guess the difference between AB and Dennis Miller is that I can still find AB entertaining since 9/11, given that if he started ad-libbing pro-war rants he'd be fired from his acting jobs pretty soon, whereas Miller's whole act consists of political rants.

My pet theory about Miller is still that he died in 9/11 and was replaced by a crazed Republican clone, though.

Although if anyone saw Team America they should be amused by the irony of an actor named A. Baldwin being pro-war!


manzo - Feb 09, 2005 3:10:04 am PST #657 of 10001
If we're really lucky, they'll do it in that order...

Chris Buchanan is scouring the Internet looking for early reports on the London screening today. If you hear anything I think he would appreciate it being posted in one of the usual locations.

Fireflyfans.net has some (non-spoilery) reports at the bottom of the page.

In short, they love it.


reequeen - Feb 09, 2005 7:09:50 am PST #658 of 10001
"It's got to be the hair, Cotton. It's beautiful! Feathered and lethal. You just don't see it nowadays." Pepper Brooks - Dodgeball

It happened to me too, and I'm Canadian, so I can certainly see how that might happen to an American and last longer. I guess the difference between AB and Dennis Miller is that I can still find AB entertaining since 9/11, given that if he started ad-libbing pro-war rants he'd be fired from his acting jobs pretty soon, whereas Miller's whole act consists of political rants.

Agreed. Hasn't changed my burning passion for Jayne Cobb. ;-D On the other hand, my passion for Dennis Miller has turned into pity and revulsion.

My pet theory about Miller is still that he died in 9/11 and was replaced by a crazed Republican clone, though.

Hah! We must think alike, because my own hypothesis is that we actually entered an alternate timeline when W "won" the 2000 election. The Heroes didn't get to the whatchamacallit on time, and didn't save us from splitting off from the timeline we were supposed to be on.

Somewhere, there's a world where the rightwing wingnuts don't rule, and the Heroes are still out there, whoever they may be, trying to wrest us back on course.

Although if anyone saw Team America they should be amused by the irony of an actor named A. Baldwin being pro-war!

Love that movie. Giggled through the entire thing, face and stomach hurt afterwards. "America! Fuck yeah!"


Gus - Feb 09, 2005 7:32:18 pm PST #659 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Gawd, I love FF fans.

There is an alternative timeline, now, where Dennis Miller doesn't frog march around with his armpit exposed chanting "Sieg Heil, Uber Bush!" and Adam Baldwin is completely aware that "Fully Clad Jacket" was not a celebration of war and rants like this are on HBO in primetime with good ratings because people are aware of when their knees are being jerked and it tickles a little because interupting circular references is a fun way to recognize you are smarter than a computer and you can run a sentence on anytime you want, thank you very much.


reequeen - Feb 10, 2005 6:35:28 pm PST #660 of 10001
"It's got to be the hair, Cotton. It's beautiful! Feathered and lethal. You just don't see it nowadays." Pepper Brooks - Dodgeball

Interdimensional magic, this is.

[ducking now, because I know there's someone out there who's going to argue that multiple dimensions and alternate realities are two different things, never the twixt should meet]


Gus - Feb 11, 2005 5:05:55 pm PST #661 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

reequeen is an SF person.

Busted!

Wonders why busting someone for SF-ness is a thing, in a Firefly thread.

Nevermind. The fingers type. The mind moves on.


Stephanie - Feb 11, 2005 5:08:40 pm PST #662 of 10001
Trust my rage

"America! Fuck yeah!"

This still reduces me to giggles.