Hey, preaching to the choir. I thought our Lady of the Perpetual Sea Breeze was the real deal until the Divine Miss J walked right through that door and right into my ass—which is where my heart is…physiologically. I could show you an x-ray.

Lorne ,'Time Bomb'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Cashmere - Oct 08, 2005 4:25:59 pm PDT #6103 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I've also wondered if there would have been more or less momentum for the film had Universal done the screenings closer to the release. It's certainly been an interesting experiment to watch.

Absolutely. And that's an interesting point. Maybe they were so concerned with the product that they needed the reassurance of the early screenings. Unfortunately, they may have blown their wad too early--especially with the core of fans they were relying on for the big returns.

Like everything else in the industry, it helps to have good timing and a bit of luck.


Eddie - Oct 08, 2005 4:30:33 pm PDT #6104 of 10001
Your tag here.

they may have blown their wad too early

So, you're saying Uni had premature exhibition?


Tim Minear - Oct 08, 2005 4:31:32 pm PDT #6105 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Hey, Ploter-cow! The interrogation scene was directing, too!

And you just HAD to go and bring up the placemat, didn'tcha? Makes me crazy. But it was an effects shot with three elements and that take was the best for other reasons. Curses, you!

Also, they put the wrong version of that effects shot on the DVD. Makes me nuts. In the aired version I had Zoic go back and speed up the pull back so it ended with a beat or two of the full shot of the Alliance ship just hanging there. For some reason on the DVD they got ahold of the shot I rejected, where the pull back doesn't have to complete itself before we cut in close to Simon and River. Curses again!


Polter-Cow - Oct 08, 2005 4:36:26 pm PDT #6106 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Hey, Ploter-cow! The interrogation scene was directing, too!

It was! And I liked it!

And you just HAD to go and bring up the placemat, didn'tcha? Makes me crazy. But it was an effects shot with three elements and that take was the best for other reasons. Curses, you!

Ha. I'm sorry, but it cracks me up every time. It's like, "Yep, they're not under here!" I mean, I can fanwank it as their being very thorough (leave no placemat unturned!).

Also, they put the wrong version of that effects shot on the DVD. Makes me nuts. In the aired version I had Zoic go back and speed up the pull back so it ended with a beat or two of the full shot of the Alliance ship just hanging there. For some reason on the DVD they got ahold of the shot I rejected, where the pull back doesn't have to complete itself before we cut in close to Simon and River. Curses again!

Aw, crap! That sucks. Why would they do that? I guess I don't understand how DVD transfer works. Don't you just hand them the episode? Why would they put in a different cut without being told?


Tim Minear - Oct 08, 2005 4:38:10 pm PDT #6107 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Aw, crap! That sucks. Why would they do that? I guess I don't understand how DVD transfer works. Don't you just hand them the episode? Why would they put in a different cut without being told?

Yeah, it's really weird. I have no idea how it happened.


libkitty - Oct 08, 2005 4:40:55 pm PDT #6108 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I think a lot of fans wanted to believe it was going to be a huge blockbuster success that would spawn several sequels and/or a return to the small screen.

This is so me. I'm just not ready for there to be no more of that 'verse. But I haven't given up hope. I really hoped it would do better in the theater, but I've got to think that DVD sales will really rock.

And Tim, it was totally the direction.


IAmNotReallyASpring - Oct 08, 2005 4:48:30 pm PDT #6109 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

And Tim, it was totally the direction.

If by "direction" you mean...

I think the ideas in the episode are really elegantly laid out. The episode is frickin' diagrammable.


IAmNotReallyASpring - Oct 08, 2005 4:48:38 pm PDT #6110 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

DebetEsse - Oct 08, 2005 5:02:43 pm PDT #6111 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I just got back from seeing it again. Pretty well full house. And it seemed like mostly civvies.

It's a very different movie the second time through. Much less a rollercoater, and much more...a book you've read and keep coming back to, maybe. Thinking about it on the walk home, Les Miserables is what came to mind, but I know that's not really what I mean (I love the movie, but it's not quite that epic).

And, given that it was .10% of the population (1 tenth of 1 percent) that got turned by the Pax, I really, really don't think all the Reavers (or, maybe, given the radiation. For 10 years) we've "met" are the originals, so I'm good with Bushwhacked (which was a beautiful episode, and terribly well put together) as it stands.


DCJensen - Oct 08, 2005 5:12:57 pm PDT #6112 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Ha. I'm sorry, but it cracks me up every time. It's like, "Yep, they're not under here!" I mean, I can fanwank it as their being very thorough (leave no placemat unturned!).

I wanked it as "I was looking for clues!"