Anya: It's lovely! I wish it was mine! Oh like you weren't all thinking the same thing. Giles: I'm fairly certain I wasn't.

'The Killer In Me'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


tommyrot - Oct 03, 2005 5:56:54 pm PDT #5824 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think a better strategy would be for every Firefly fan to tell two friends about the movie. And then they tell two friends, and they tell two friends, and so on, and so on, and so on....


Kalshane - Oct 03, 2005 5:57:37 pm PDT #5825 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Kalshane, I think Kristen was talking about specific communities on LJ. Like a message board dedicated to one topic. So having several hits to what is essentially an open community by strangers who have no interest in you or your community, is frankly, really fucking annoying and spam. And also rude.

I agree with you there. I'm not the most of savvy of LJers, but a f-list is different from a community, right? I was referring to the Wank article you linked earlier. A ton of the comments on it were people griping about hearing about Serenity/Firefly from people on the f-list and being sick of it. Which to me is silly for the reasons I outlined above.


Steph L. - Oct 03, 2005 5:58:16 pm PDT #5826 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I think a better strategy would be for every Firefly fan to tell two friends about the movie. And then they tell two friends, and they tell two friends, and so on, and so on, and so on....

And the rest are food.


Allyson - Oct 03, 2005 5:59:51 pm PDT #5827 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Soylent Green is Browncoats!!!


beekaytee - Oct 03, 2005 6:01:41 pm PDT #5828 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

But I'm not sure I get how the Browncoats are so unavoidable, or how they'd be apparent at all to people who weren't already attached in some way to fandom.

This.

There are craxy people everywhere attached to everything. If I let them dictate my actions or will...then I'm not actually exercising will...am I?

People who have the luxury of getting crazed about essentially nothing of import just make me sad. And those who get crazed about the crazed? Even sadder.

Am I a fan? Yes. Did I organize a LOT of people to see Serenity? Why yes I did, thank you. Am I a Browncoat? For purposes of lighthearted shorthand only.

And as such, I'm not worried about the trilogy. If Joss wants to make them, they'll get made. I hope he does.

Thus sayeth the crazysadly devoted chick who's seen all 5 Prophecy films.


beekaytee - Oct 03, 2005 6:05:38 pm PDT #5829 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Maybe a "bring a friend" campaign would be a better idea, though.

Maybe an ad promoting a 'bring a friend' campaign...in a publication that reaches a lot of potential friends.

I can see gearing a Variety ad to influence certain industry folk, but beyond the 'biz', who reads Variety anyway?


Betsy HP - Oct 03, 2005 6:06:00 pm PDT #5830 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I get upset about crazy fans because they make the rest of us look bad.

And then I realize that to society, I am always going to look bad, or at best weird, and if they weren't mocking me because of my Jossness, they'd be mocking my terrible taste in shoes.


beekaytee - Oct 03, 2005 6:07:32 pm PDT #5831 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

they weren't mocking me because of my Jossness, they'd be mocking my terrible taste in shoes.

OMG. This is so completely me. Bless you for making me laugh out loud...at myself.


HiddenSky - Oct 03, 2005 6:09:34 pm PDT #5832 of 10001
"There are two sorts of people in the world: those who believe Joss Whedon is a genius and those who are wrong." - Connie Ogle, Miami Herald

I'm just happy Serenity even exists. Is it disappointing that it wasn't #1 at the box office? Yes, in the sense that it would have been a very nice achievement, but #2 isn't anything to cry about, either. I'm just sitting back and enjoying the chance to see Serenity on the big screen.

As far as the evangelizing, there's no doubt it's definitely a dedicated fan base. I'm certainly a devoted fan (the area around my computer is littered with Serenity merchandise right now) who has tried to spread the word via old fashioned word-of-mouth to my friends who I think would enjoy it (and out of the group of eight who saw it with me Friday, I'd say 75% of them did), but to force the film down people's throats and attack anyone who doesn't think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread isn't the way to go. It disappoints me when I see reactions like that. (ETA: After posting, I read my tagline and realized it sounds contradictory to what I just wrote. Pretend the tagline isn't there.)

I must say that I am surprised, though, at just how many fans I encounter outside of the usual areas I'd expect. Many of the places I go online are fandom related, so buzz about something like Serenity is to be expected. But I've also seen posts in the off-topic area of a hockey message board and other places that aren't from overzealous fans trying to reach other audiences. They're people who found Firefly through some means and they're also excited about Serenity.

I was in line at the concession stand on Friday afternoon and the man behind me saw my Serenity t-shirt and started chatting with me. He was a Firefly fan who heard about the movie and had no idea about the internet-driven advance screenings and other stuff going on. Likewise, someone was looking at the script book at work. He caught part of an episode on Sci-Fi and bought the DVDs based off that. So, yes, it might be annoying if you're not a fan to see mentions of Serenity cropping up everywhere, but I think some of it is genuine buzz by people who might not have a clue about internet browncoats, etc.

I don't get the feelings of betrayal by Joss, either. When I sit down to watch or read something, I'm ultimately putting my trust in the creator(s) behind the work. I believe they have their reasons for their actions, and if that's the way they feel their story should be told, so be it, even if I disagree. I put my trust in their hands hoping that I feel fulfilled in return, but they don't owe me anything.


Jesse - Oct 03, 2005 6:16:53 pm PDT #5833 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In non-serious fan news, my parents loved the movie, loved the show, but my mother never got why the show was called Firefly.