I gave her everything... jewels, beautiful dresses -- with beautiful girls in them.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Polter-Cow - Oct 02, 2005 10:31:03 am PDT #5606 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I thought it was very well plotted, with a lot of things in the first half serving double duty as setups for payoffs in the second half.


tommyrot - Oct 02, 2005 10:31:24 am PDT #5607 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm hoping Serenity will do well in foreign markets, DVD sales and merchandising of cunning hats.


le nubian - Oct 02, 2005 10:33:43 am PDT #5608 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Allyson,

the Fall is one of the worst times of the year for box office. September and October are slim months.

Cronenberg's movie did really well according to per screen average - which is what most movie studios look at (as I understand it).


Jesse - Oct 02, 2005 10:33:49 am PDT #5609 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think I'm mostly bummed out because throughout the movie, I was thinking, "OK, this is River's movie, but maybe the next one can be Zoe and Wash's." And one of the people I was with was thinking the same thing about Book. Bah.


le nubian - Oct 02, 2005 10:35:40 am PDT #5610 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Suffice it to say, we could have a Wash and Book movie. It could be: Serenity: The Prequel :-)


Jesse - Oct 02, 2005 10:37:05 am PDT #5611 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

True, true. It's not like the actors died.


Polter-Cow - Oct 02, 2005 10:40:09 am PDT #5612 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Don't jinx them!


AnthonyDe - Oct 02, 2005 10:41:16 am PDT #5613 of 10001
A One that isn't cold, is scarcely A One at all.

Liars figure and figures lie.

Not sure what to make sure of the numbers. Serenity was the only movie in the top ten to drop off on Saturday. Flightplan was on 1300 more screens which is pretty significant. Overseas box office could be the ace in the whole.

I can almost guarantee the marketing this week will be "The number 1 science fiction movie at the box office this weekend was...Serenity."


Foxhunter - Oct 02, 2005 10:45:28 am PDT #5614 of 10001
When we kill people it makes the policemen flustered and stern.

The way I see it, Flight Plan is on half again as many screens and made half again as much money. I call that a win for a movie based on a TV show that was cancelled early. Even getting the movie made was a win, but having it match up 'evenly' to a star-shot like Flightplan makes me smile. Hopefully Universal will smile too.


Atropa - Oct 02, 2005 10:46:08 am PDT #5615 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

What I don't understand is the personal rage and sense of betrayal that I've seen exhibited in some responses. Good stories hurt. That's what they do. Good stories surprise and challenge. Killing Wash off was a narrative choice inherent to the form,

Good stories CAN hurt, and there are books I re-read or movies I re-watch where characters I love die. I get upset and sniffly each time, but those deaths don't change how I feel about that book or movie. Don't ask me why Wash's death makes Serenity different for me, why it changes my reaction to the movie, because I can't really explain it myself; it's something very far back in my hindbrain. When I think about it objectively, the narrative choice of killing Wash makes perfect sense. But something about it rubs my emotions the wrong way. I'm sure I'll get to a point where I will watch Serenity again, but right now? No.