( continues...) whenever I look at an ep of tele that he directed, it always looks like a movie."

I can really see both sides. Pilot!Serenity actually seemed more cinematic to me than Movie!Serenity. I love the movie. I'm probably heading back for viewing three tomorrow. But I think I've finally figured out what bothers me the most about the movie. It's that it's choppy in a way that can work on the small screen, but which I haven't really seen ME employ on tv. I know that a "natural" feel was employed in Firefly, and that's not what I mean, but I'm not sure how to explain this better at this point.

dw in Bitches sez that Flightplan is estimated to have exceeded Serenity on Friday.

Given Jody Foster and that Flightplan actually looks like a good flick, that's not terribly surprising. Disappointing, though. Still, we don't really need Serenity to be a blockbuster. It just needs to make enough for two sequels and a new series. That was my goal before, when I couldn't envision a significantly different series even though I knew it would need to change. Now, I can see some of the changes with the deaths of Book and Wash, and although I'm sad about those deaths, I'm glad for the life that they give to the story.

I know the Big Macs didn't help him, but he looked better when he was fat. Now he looks frail and I fear for him.

I know Clinton has had heart problems over the last few years, but I'm amazed at how unwell he looks. I remember that Carter aged tremendously in office, but I had thought that Clinton looked quite well when he first got out. It's like W is killing him, which is, I suppose, not all that surprising.

The Friday 10:30 show in Evanston was packed. I didn't notice any costumes but there were lots of Firefly related t-shirts and a cunning hat. Good crowd - big laughs, gasps, and several moments with applause.

I think I may have stopped breathing for a while when Wash bought it.

I think, "weird, 'cause whenever I look at an ep of tele that he directed, it always looks like a movie."

As much as I liked the new film, I had the subversive thought that maybe Joss should have just thrown some of Universal's money at Zoic to redo the special effects at feature film resolution and swapped out "Serenity" for Serenity at the last moment. I think it's the better viewing experience of the two.

I'm not sure what the psychic bit has to do with her being able to fly, but the brilliant part, as well as her knowledge of ships and love of space (as shown in pilot!Serenity and Bushwacked) makes her piloting the ship make sense to me.

She also got some practical experience with spaceship flying in "Objects in Space." But we don't know how extensive her psychic gifts really are - after 8 months on Serenity in Wash's presence, how much of his piloting knowledge and skill mightn't she have picked up by osmosis?

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As for the aging politician thing, I don't think we can infer evilness. Love or hate his job as president, I think everyone can agree that Jimmy Carter was/is a fiercely moral, good man. And he shriveled up like Dorian Gray post-portrait destruction during his term in office.

As for the aging politician thing, I don't think we can infer evilness. Love or hate his job as president, I think everyone can agree that Jimmy Carter was/is a fiercely moral, good man. And he shriveled up like Dorian Gray post-portrait destruction during his term in office.

I loved him dearly, but so was the country's morale.

I think Clinton aged a lot in office. And sudden thinness ages a person in the short-run. Also, he's less ruddy, which is a by-product of being in better cardiac health, but to the eye, it looks the same as being pale.

it would be fuck Hamilton, chuck Jefferson, marry Adams.

Oh I agree. Except I'd hold out for Samuel. Q. has all the glory, but Sam = free beer.

Wait. Kat, did you mean Q, or just JA?

Kat, did you mean Q, or just JA?

John Adams. JQA was a fine man, but I don't know enough about him to want to say I'd marry him. Plus JQA doesn't qualify as a founding father, I think. John Adams, though, was an ass kicker and had a great relationship with his wife.

It's sort of like FCM with the Serenity men (it's far easier with the women for me F-kaylee, C-Inara, M-Zoe ...I'm not sure where River fits, but there you have it.).

You'd fuck Mal, because, hello, getting out of bed to talk to Inara, did you see those hips? But he's Dysfunction wrapped in Depression dipped in Anger which might not make fun for the long haul. You'd have to Chuck Simon because, clearly gay or incesty. But you'd marry Wash. Sure he might drive you crazy but he's time tested as a good husband who is capable of having a happy relationship. (again, don't know where Jayne falls into it, but I only need to consider 3).

It's the same deal with the founding fathers. Pick the one who had a loving relationship and that leaves JA and possibly Washington, but Washington owned people too and that sort of knocks him out of my books.

Oh, I've been wanting to read the Hamilton book. Must remember to check for it next time I'm in a bookstore.

But we don't know how extensive her psychic gifts really are - after 8 months on Serenity in Wash's presence, how much of his piloting knowledge and skill mightn't she have picked up by osmosis?

From the show, more than the movie, she isn't just a psychic. With everything that may or may not have been done to her, and with whatever training she was given to turn her into this incredible weapon, her piloting didn't surprise me a bit. Also, as someone mentioned, she'd earlier shown some real technical knowledge of the ship.

I'm glad to hear the speculation about Book - I hadn't thought about in those terms, but it makes a lot of sense, and makes me feel a bit better about the loss.

Wash was a total shock the first time round, but - don't hate me - it was almost worth it to see the real Zoe. I think Zoe was my biggest beef with how any of the characters were portrayed. I really think she got kind of lost in the shuffle, and what there was of her didn't really bring out her utterly unflappable badass, or her bond with Mal.

I was no more surprised that River could fly, than that the Operative could.

In the Pilot!Serenity, Simon says of River, "There is nothing that didn't come to her as naturally as breathing does to us." Even considering that this must be an exaggeration, between that innate talent and her observing Wash for 8 months, I had no problem of her piloting the ship, especially with Mal assisting.

Bill Clinton is aging rapidly, too, you partisans.

He’s not evil. Not Dick Cheney Evil, anyway.

I think Clinton aged a lot in office. And sudden thinness ages a person in the short-run. Also, he's less ruddy, which is a by-product of being in better cardiac health, but to the eye, it looks the same as being pale.

I think Clinton misses being president the most – he misses the action. Watching from the sidelines may be particularly hard on him.

Pilot!Serenity actually seemed more cinematic to me than Movie!Serenity.

Maybe me too. I need to see the movie again. I mean, there were spaceships and horses in the TV pilot. What could be more cinematic?