The more I think about the things that ping me as "male culture" with Mal, the more I can think of examples on the female side. Like, the way Mal deals with pain (denial, no acceding) reminded me of people I did construction work with. But it's really no different from the ballet world my first GF talked about where people typically finished their day with bloody toe-shoes. Probably just my limited sets of reference. (BMECT)
Buffy: Where are the burgers? Riley: Yeah man, I'm starving. Cow me. Xander: I'd love to make with the moo but the fire's not cooperating.
'Lessons'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
DavidS - Feb 04, 2005 7:38:07 am PST #553 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Gus - Feb 04, 2005 7:40:15 am PST #554 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
[...] Of course, a lot of that is military, but I think the military is a male defined culture. [...]
"Male defined culture." This phrase has got to be comment bait. What are the "female defined" contemporary cultures?
(That's a question, not a poke.)
Now that I stop to think, I wonder what military Zoe's family might have been from, if any. Was her Mom a military lady?
Frankenbuddha - Feb 04, 2005 7:44:14 am PST #555 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
What are the "female defined" contemporary cultures?
I have no idea, but they are probably closer to the earth.
runs away
DavidS - Feb 04, 2005 7:48:04 am PST #556 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
This phrase has got to be comment bait. What are the "female defined" contemporary cultures?
See? This is why I don't like talking about this stuff. Any gender generalizing always gets hammered.
I'm sorry though, I do think the military is defined by "male" (though I'm not being essentialist - I'm talking historically, socially) codes of behavior.
Gus - Feb 04, 2005 7:48:29 am PST #557 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.
Frankenbuddha is a bad buddha.
Also? A funny buddha.
P.M. Marc - Feb 04, 2005 7:49:14 am PST #558 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
So I'm inclined to chalk it up to his farm experience.
Probably a good bet.
People who grew up farming, in my experience, which granted is basically limited to my mother and her sisters, have certain qualities that can be seen in Mal.
tommyrot - Feb 04, 2005 7:51:16 am PST #559 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
People who grew up farming, in my experience, which granted is basically limited to my mother and her sisters, have certain qualities that can be seen in Mal.
Like what?
DavidS - Feb 04, 2005 7:51:55 am PST #560 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Like what?
Said the man who grew up on a farm.
tommyrot - Feb 04, 2005 7:53:24 am PST #561 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Said the man who grew up on a farm.
Well, I don't see Mal liking penguins, or driving an old car....
Frankenbuddha - Feb 04, 2005 7:56:42 am PST #562 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Well, I don't see Mal liking penguins, or driving an old car....
Well, I'd Serenity is the equivalent of an old car (though Mal's not really the driver most of the time).
And penguins are funnier than space monkeys, so who knows.