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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


sarameg - Oct 01, 2005 1:08:41 pm PDT #5507 of 10001

I suspect you aren't alone, frankly. The review in the Monitor was cranky enough (oh, he really didn't like River at all! called her an extraterrestrial Alanis Morrisette ) that surprised me at its conclusion by giving it a C+. I guess the writer must have been an action fan because that was the thing he was nicest about.


le nubian - Oct 01, 2005 1:12:32 pm PDT #5508 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

BTW...

Book's death I accept very sadly (I want backstory!) since Ron Glass isn't in good enough health anymore to film another TV series.

What's wrong with Ron Glass?


AnthonyDe - Oct 01, 2005 1:24:13 pm PDT #5509 of 10001
A One that isn't cold, is scarcely A One at all.

I think the reaction is fascinating. Fan reaction was expected. Non-fan reaction seems mixed and that was expected. I'm surprised the critics have been mostly favorable. I'm mostly enjoying the anti-Joss and never-gotten-Firefly-never-will camps. Some say meh. Quite a few say it was better than they thought it would be. I enjoyed that Harry from Ain't it Cool begrudgingly said he liked it. I'm trying to understand the hate hate HATED it reactions. Often it's because of a betrayal factor. Mostly I treat reviews like ice skating judging, drop the best and worst score. I'm wondering though for those who didn't like it, what would have been the perfect Serenity movie. Would it simply be keep everything the same but no one dies? The only thing that might have worked better for me was a story about Book's past catching up with him. On the other hand I could see where it might make sense to hold off on that.


Foxhunter - Oct 01, 2005 1:26:40 pm PDT #5510 of 10001
When we kill people it makes the policemen flustered and stern.

What's wrong with Ron Glass?

I heard last year some time that he had had a bout of ill health, which has remained unconfirmed though is supported by his appearance in Serenity. He is looking much older than his true 60 years in the film. From these clues I made the assumption, but we can always hope I heard wrong.


Laura - Oct 01, 2005 1:29:34 pm PDT #5511 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Oh my. I'm more spoiled than Veruca since I don't know when I'll get a chance to get to the big screen. Maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow. I've read bunches of reviews, and all the posts here.

I'm braced for the losses. I want to be in the loved it camp. My love for the series was great. Sigh


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 01, 2005 1:31:04 pm PDT #5512 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

He looked fine last February, so between then and whenever his scenes were shot for Serenity he's apparently gone through some rough times.


sarameg - Oct 01, 2005 1:57:06 pm PDT #5513 of 10001

Oh, one thing that really jerked me back was everytime Mal threatened to ditch the crew. That OOC, I blinked at.

I was skeptical a movie was a good idea. I didn't see what it could deliver in such a format that would continue the spirit I liked in the show.

And now I'm going to go soak my fingertips in acetone.


Tim Minear - Oct 01, 2005 2:10:51 pm PDT #5514 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

I saw Ron at the opening and he looked his usual, robust and healthy self. I have heard nothing to suggest he wouldn't be healthy enough to do another show, for instance. The guy's got way more energy than I do, at twenty years his junior.


Narrator - Oct 01, 2005 2:13:35 pm PDT #5515 of 10001
The evil is this way?

The guy's got way more energy than I do, at twenty years his junior.

Well, you're evil and he's not.


Sue - Oct 01, 2005 2:15:10 pm PDT #5516 of 10001
hip deep in pie

I saw Ron at the opening and he looked his usual, robust and healthy self.

I guess his dying acting is just too darn good.