No power in the 'verse can stop me.

River ,'War Stories'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Sean K - Sep 30, 2005 11:57:25 am PDT #5312 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think Zoe's victory was the dress. Which is trite and shallow, but I think her victory was not to be found in combat. It was to be found in a more quiet moment, of deciding to live, not having to fight.

Okay, that got me all choked up just thinking about that there.


Steph L. - Sep 30, 2005 11:59:30 am PDT #5313 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Also, STEPH!!!! When did you get converted???

Oh, I'm not. I saw the movie because, well, I am pro-Joss, and I really want the movie to do well. And the sneak preview was on my birthday, and SA came up for it, and that equalled a great way to spend my birthday. And we got to meet up with LingMao and have beers after.

I did re-watch some of the episodes in prep for the movie, and some things are less off-putting than they were the first time around.

I still don't have the big ooey-gooey love for it that other people do, though.


Sean K - Sep 30, 2005 12:02:35 pm PDT #5314 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I still don't have the big ooey-gooey love for it that other people do, though.

Yeah, I got converted all the way to ooey-gooey love, but we were both on the HATE IT wagon for a while, so it's always a little surprising to see other sonverts and semi-converts.

I think I'd drop dead of a heart attack if Jess got converted.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 30, 2005 12:03:35 pm PDT #5315 of 10001
What is even happening?

Oh, I'm not. I saw the movie because, well, I am pro-Joss
This and that I am a completist are mostly why I'll see it, and apparently, are mostly why I bought the FF DVDs, which I've hardly watched.


Allyson - Sep 30, 2005 12:11:13 pm PDT #5316 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think Wesley's "I'll take away your bucket" was a bigger HSQ moment than anything Serenity delivered.


AnthonyDe - Sep 30, 2005 12:11:47 pm PDT #5317 of 10001
A One that isn't cold, is scarcely A One at all.

So it'd be two people with vaginas, then. We have a lot in common.

What I meant was she lobbed a lot of softball questions and fawned. Just imagined that you two would take a different approach. Not sure what vaginas has to do with it


Kathy A - Sep 30, 2005 12:13:21 pm PDT #5318 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I think Wesley's "I'll take away your bucket" was a bigger HSQ moment than anything Serenity delivered.

Definitely. As far as Wesley had gone by the end of Season 3, that one line showed us just how distant he was from "all the maturity of a blueberry scone."


§ ita § - Sep 30, 2005 12:14:04 pm PDT #5319 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not sure what vaginas has to do with it

I think Allyson's wondering what they have in common with the hosts, then, if you take away their trademark snarkery. Vaginas and an interest in the Jossverse and crackling chemistry, I'm guessing.


§ ita § - Sep 30, 2005 12:15:27 pm PDT #5320 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

As far as Wesley had gone by the end of Season 3, that one line showed us just how distant he was from "all the maturity of a blueberry scone."

I think it was squandered, though. That level of amorality should have been shimmering right under the surface (or being fought against) the whole rest of the time. Even though he did dark things later, the bucket (while pleasing) seemed uncapitalised upon.


Kristen - Sep 30, 2005 12:18:29 pm PDT #5321 of 10001

I've always thought a podcast was a better option for The Kristen & Allyson Show.

I doubt any radio station would let us smoke while we were working.