Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Killing Wash (there, I said it) snapped things into perspective. I felt quite (well, even more) silly about worrying about the ship (and Kaylee's reaction) when presented with death and the potential of Zoe's reaction. So I'd thought it had been a gut punch, but I realised it'd been just a love tap, and wouldn't even leave a bruise.
However, the cheer I felt when the doors opened to reveal River untouched in the room full of Reaver corpses was directly proportional to the loss that had gone before.
And that I appreciated. I just had to remind myself to remember that scene as well as the sad ones.
How about Book's death? Was it expected? Was it a gut punch?
the potential of Zoe's reaction
I *loved* how GT played it, with the snap into soldier mode -- and yet you could see she was shattered, but there was never any doubt that she'd be less than 100% in the battle.
when the doors opened to reveal River untouched in the room full of Reaver corpses
One of those iconic Whedon girl-power shots. I loved it on an emotional level, but I'm still not sure the film earned it.
Book's death had foreshadowing. They're looking for him, and there's death and destruction all around. They've been finding corpses. In fact, Book's the only one alive (although not for long).
You're in a really safe space (relatively speaking) when Wash buys it.
So Tuesday I was at that Joss Internet Radio interview at The Fandom.com BTW, thefandom.com radio show is probably what the Allyson/Kristen show would be without the snark but with more kiss assery. (btw girls I have their address now, you should contact them about doing a show. It's the same people who do the fishbowl.com and they have multiple shows there.)
I was in chat logged under my old Bronzer name (IMMORTAL) It was a pretty good interview (1hr and 30+minutes,) not the standard questions Joss has been getting. At the end there was a Q&A open to those in chat and my question was the first asked. I asked about the possibility of Joss returning to TV is a limited indirect capacity by proxy.
Then they held a trivia contest. They had 20 tshirts and if you answered a question you got one. I answered the first question (Numfar!) Then they decided that since there were only 22 people in chat (w/mods) everyone would get a tshirt!
Here's the good part...I got a package today! Not only did I get a tshirt, I got a window cling, a bandana and chopsticks. That's 11000 points worth of stuff at the Browncoat store on the site. The funny thing is I've been answering questions there forever and only have 1600 points and one question elsewhere netted me all this stuff. Before you go hating on me I posted that the interview was going take place at a few places and was responsible for hooking those who showed up with the same stuff.
You're in a really safe space (relatively speaking)
Well, yeah. Because there's this big sigh of relief that he landed without smashing them to bits, and then WHAMMO -- sucka!!!!
there, I said it)
Yay! I have been sooo tempted all day.
there was never any doubt that she'd be less than 100% in the battle.
Yes. For me, the question was whether she'd value her own life enough -- but the lives of the crew were just as safe as they'd have been with Wash alive. Because she's a pro.
I'm still not sure the film earned it.
I'll never have the distance to judge that, I think. It's so much one of my buttons. Zoe ... well, she's Zoe and she's beauty and a soldier and that gets me close to where I live. But the silly sappy button is with the unlikely fighter, the hobbit, the child, the brain-damaged ballerina. Those make me unreasoned.
You're in a really safe space (relatively speaking) when Wash buys it.
That's what I remember reading the most about, when people saw the first round of sneak previews. I think Kate P. might have been one of the people who felt sort of abused by it.
This is a prime example of why I spoil (when I do, I don't always, and hardly ever have for a film--this might be the first). I brace, better. I know that's why Joss et al hate spoilers, but some things are just too hard to take.
It had very little impact on me. Now, I was spoiled, so the HSQ of it would necessarily be muted, but I was spoiled for I See Dead People too, and that HSQ worked.
In part because the 6th Sense HSQ was an HSQ to the character, and the axis on which his perspective turned. Even if I wasn't surprised, I was moved for the character, and could follow his personal HSQ. Whereas, with Wash, it was like, Holy Shit! okay, and now, on with the plot.
I know it was meant to have longer-term impact, but most of the impact felt very meta. Other, distracting things took over in my mind, and the Holy Shit lost its resonant power.
I think this is not helped by ow much I disliked the siege choreography at the end; but as deaths go, only the death of Mr. Universe got the shrift I thought it deserved.
