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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
§ ita § - Sep 30, 2005 4:20:44 am PDT #5232 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Topic!Cindy - Sep 30, 2005 4:21:36 am PDT #5233 of 10001
What is even happening?
From Ebert:
River and Simon are soon enough allied with a team of free-lance smugglers on a banged-up old ship named Serenity. Malcolm (Nathan Fillion) is the captain, and his crew includes the pilot Wash (Alan Tudyk), his wife, Zoe (Gina Torres), the engineer Kaylee (Jewel Staite) and the tough guy Jayne (Adam Baldwin). On their trail is the most competent and feared of the Alliance's agents, The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor).
If he's listing Zoe third, and calling her Wash's wife, I'm having some more questions about the film.
Wolfram - Sep 30, 2005 4:23:15 am PDT #5234 of 10001
Visilurking
He makes the Josh mistake too, so I wouldn't get too hung up on his details.
Lee - Sep 30, 2005 4:24:11 am PDT #5235 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
From Ebert's review
River and Simon are soon enough allied with a team of free-lance smugglers on a banged-up old ship named Serenity. Malcolm (Nathan Fillion) is the captain, and his crew includes the pilot Wash (Alan Tudyk), his wife, Zoe (Gina Torres), the engineer Kaylee (Jewel Staite) and the tough guy Jayne (Adam Baldwin).
Um, No. Zoe is NOT just the pilot's wife.
Topic!Cindy - Sep 30, 2005 4:24:45 am PDT #5236 of 10001
What is even happening?
But that's part of what I mean. I'm wondering how Zoe comes across in the film to people who are just meeting her for the first time.
eta...
Um, No. Zoe is NOT just the pilot's wife.
See? Perkins gets it.
Lee - Sep 30, 2005 4:25:45 am PDT #5237 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Cindy, that's just Ebert being a pillock. Zoe and Wash aren't used enough, but she is not just there as his wife.
Topic!Cindy - Sep 30, 2005 4:28:11 am PDT #5238 of 10001
What is even happening?
Good. Thanks, Perkins. Because here's where I am. I loved Firefly. I got really bitter (at FOX). I got over it. Truthfully, I got over Firefly a little, too. But I'd rather remember it as it was, than watch some movie where Zoe isn't Zoe.
smonster - Sep 30, 2005 4:39:03 am PDT #5239 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
That should read:
"Captain Malcolm Reynolds, his badass second Zoe, her husband Wash, the pilot..."
I'll be charitable and assume it's b/c AT is more of a name than GT.
And Cindy - Zoe is most definitely Zoe. No worries on that count.
Topic!Cindy - Sep 30, 2005 4:41:40 am PDT #5240 of 10001
What is even happening?
Interview with Joss: [link]
That should read:
"Captain Malcolm Reynolds, his badass second Zoe, her husband Wash, the pilot..."
Exactly.
And Cindy - Zoe is most definitely Zoe. No worries on that count.
That's good to read, smonster. It's good to see you here, too.
UTTAD - Sep 30, 2005 4:44:00 am PDT #5241 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.
Review from Empire Magazine. Here.
Their verdict: If you’re a novice, this is a plucky introduction to Whedon’s world and the most fun sci-fi of the year. If you’re a devotee, this is the magnificent return you’ve been praying for.